How Obama set a trap for the right.

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  1. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    Oh please learn some history, in the 1930's there were close to 800 000 abortions a year AND they kileld about 1500 women a year .

    Thats not significant different from the 50-60 or 70's when abortians became legal .
     
  2. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    lunch breaks and race discrimination are not tenets of the catholic faith.
     
  3. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    This is the left in just one sentence.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    neither is insurance coverage for employees of a nonprofit corporation
     
  5. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    and btw...if they WERE....they still couldnt violate the law in their nonprofit corporations
     
  6. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    the liberal left....

    comparing ---giving employees healthcare coverage, to violating their major principles within the church.

    wow.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    nobody is handing out birth control at church, in fact nothing discussed takes place within the church.

    a hospital isnt a church.....comprende?
     
  8. Consmike

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    many hospitals are run by the Catholic church.....comprende?
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    A hospital is not a church now is it?
     
  10. Jebediah

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    They ALL would not exist without government funding. You take the money... You follow the rules.
     
  11. Phoebe Bump

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    The 1st Amendment is no more than a bumper sticker.
     
  12. hopeless_in_2012

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    LOL...but food and guns do?
     
  13. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    can you show me where it says in the 1st amendment that it you are given federal money, you lose the right all together?

    thanks
     
  14. The Mello Guy

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    its by the section that says a church can form a corporation that runs a hospital and still claim the hospital is a church
     
  15. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong, that is not in the constitution nor the first amendment.
     
  16. AnnaK

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    Is he violating the 1st amendment NOW? Whatever problems there were with the original plan have been fixed. Are Conservatives just going to whine about this until November anyway?

    This same plan is in effect in 28 states and has been for some time. Why was there no outcry about that? Because it wasn't in an election year? Will the outrage die down the day after the election?
     
  17. AnnaK

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    That's why they changed it and it does not violate any tenets of any faith by force.

    Why are Cons acting like the changes were not made? Or don't you know that they were made? :confused: :confused:
     
  18. AnnaK

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    And what exactly did he force them to do? Nobody was forced to do anything because it hasn't gone into effect yet and religious institutions were going to be given an extra year to comply. I'm very curious to know what the outrage is about now that the changes have been made but it seems nobody can tell me.
     
  19. Consmike

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    I see, so if Obama attempted to murder someone, got caught but is not attempting to murder them now, he did not break the law. Ok great that makes great liberal sense.
     
  20. AnnaK

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    Why will it go before a judge? :confused:
     
  21. AnnaK

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    Umm...are you saying women should be forced to have babies so they can pay for SS in the future? :shock:
     
  22. AnnaK

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    I will stand to be corrected, but the original plan was never put into effect, was it? The final plan will include the changes that Obama announced on Friday. Unless he actually FORCED a Catholic Church to provide BC pills to someone, he didn't break anything. Can you tell us the name of a church that was forced to provide BC to someone before it even went into effect?
     
  23. Consmike

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    With this president, I don't think it will happen and don't think anyone will trust him.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    Still waiting for the leftist to show me where Obama's program to supply firearms to the poor who can't access them and exercise their right.
     
  25. WalterSobchak

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    So you can't give any names of any churches that were forced to give out BC to anyone? Color me shocked! :shock:
     

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