What Would MuhamMAD do?

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  1. 4Horsemen

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    Because its' a metaphor. Genius.

    The majority of the Bible is written in metaphorical text. You have to have the spirit of Christ on you to understand the Bible, and since you don't have that, your are lost. period.

    Yeshua is telling the crowd that's following him that he knows that not all of them are true to him, so he spoke that metaphor to the ones who are with him in spirit. He tells them to follow him over all other doctrines and you are his disciples. But he knew some were not, so he said it that way.
     
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    Response: Yet a 9 year old can in fact reach puberty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAp20je2viU

    Furthermore, the Qur'an is clear that sex is only permissible at puberty. Verse 4:6 clearly mentions that there is an age appropriate for marriage. Verse 24:31clearly states that children are not to be exposed of nakedness of women without knowledge of a woman's private parts. Lastly, taking a wife back or divorcing them takes place after their menstruation. Therefore, such a law cannot apply to prepubescent girls, thus proving that marriage and sex takes place at the age of puberty. Debunked as usual.
     
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    Response: The Qur'an is the word of Allah. Your bible is the word of man.
     
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    I find it quite amusing that you continue to quote Biblical text but NOTHING from the Quran, why is that? Is not your book Holy?
     
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    I didn't ask you that. I asked you WHO WROTE IT?

    We already know the Bible is the inspired word of GOD, written by Man. that's already understood.

    What I wanna know is, from you, who wrote the Quran? was it not a Man also?
     
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    Response: To the contrary, it is an interpolation, and a weak one at that, since the words, "giving up the ignorance taught by your family" is no where mentioned, nor is there anything synonymous to it, nor is it mentioned as a metaphor. Debunked three times in one sentence. Thus the verse remnains as evidence of filth in your own bible, thus proving it is not the word or inspired word of God.
     
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    Response: I didn't ask you what you asked. The qur'an is the word of Allah. The Bible is a twisted distortion as evident from itself with trifling verses in it.
     
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    I put this is in layman's terms so you can understand it.

    From Luke 14:26

    Jesus looks at the large crowd traveling with him today, and he says:

    Your allegiance to me must be complete; every other allegiance must pale before it.
    You must be constantly ready to die for me, if necessary, as you follow me.
    You must count the cost before you start to determine if you are committed enough to follow me. If you realize that you aren't, then don't even begin.
    You must give up everything you have to follow me.
    You must retain the distinctive flavor of uncompromised disciples.


    ^that's Powerful stuff right there. Not even Muhammed could be quoted saying such things.
     
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    Just because you can't decode or understand the scriptures don't make them trifling. it just makes you UN-LEARNED.
     
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    Response: Yet the actual text says :

    "If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple"

    Jesus is a lunatic according to your Bible and Full of hatred and self-assurance. Proof your bible is not the word or inspired word of God.
     
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    No, it just means YOU are ignorant to the scriptures and self-destruct when you cant figure it out.

    It's typical of heathens to do this concerning the word of GOD
     
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    Such a lunatic that the WHOLE WORLD knows his name and what his mission was.

    Can't say that for the rapist molester Muhammed. de-funked
     
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    Response: To the contrary, the weak and foolish "decoding" argument is hilarious and fails to disprove the hatred and discrepancy that the Bible clearly states.
     
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    Response: Yet your weak rebuttals supports evidence to the contrary.
     
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    I just proved that you were wrong about Luke 14:26, so that tells me you are
    UN-LEARNED.

    I bet you Muslims spend hours trying to decode the Bible don't you?
     
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    Response: To the contrary, the whole world knows that the bible is distorted and twists the message of Jesus, making him peaceful and disgusting at the same time. The Qur'an however clears his name, as it is the true word.
     
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    I've blasted your arguments out of the water since I came into this thread. you have yet to tell me the following:

    1. Who wrote the Quran?
    2. Why is the Kabba Stone worshipped?
    3. Why did Muhammed marry a 9yr. old girl?

    3 major points of debate that got you shook. Now try to find your way out by answering those 3.
     
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    Response: Yet we see the clear statement of hatred in the bible that proves otherwise. "If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple"
     
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    Response: Yet we see your foolish arguments have been debunked repeatedly, while the qur'an remains the proven true word of Allah, as the qur'an challenge provides a hands on-eyewitness account that inspiring enough followers to conquer a nation, or just the street you live on, by using human-made speech/literature that goes against what the people want is humanly impossible, because anyone who takes the challenge will fail and not come close to answering it. And since it is clearly humanly impossible to use human-made speech/literature to achieve the act, then that means that the Qur'an that Muhammad used to inspire enough followers to conquer a nation was not the invention of any human/s, but from one who has greater power and authority than humans, and that is Allah. Debunked as usual.
     
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    Yeshua was peaceful and righteous at the same time. He was/is GOD's last messenger of truth in the flesh.

    Muhammed never preached, he just went to war and forced his doctrine upon people. That's not a prophet of GOD because none of the porphets forced the word on anybody, they accepted it freely because that's how Yeshua preached it.

    You can't force a religion on people, that's madness, that's Islam.
     
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    Still having trouble understanding that verse huh? pitiful. de-funked.
     
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    Only problem with all that ^garbage you just said, Muhammed use the SWORD to get the Quran out and accepted. DO YOUR RESEARCH. Islam has/will and will always be spread BY THE SWORD. because nobody is foolish enough to follow a child molester to seek truth. so it must be forced upon people.

    ie- suicide bombers.

    Scare tactics don't scare followers of Christ though.
     
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    Response: Yet your own Bible says Jesus was against peace in Mathew 10:34, thus debunking your claim again. The Qur'an clears Jesus of such falsehood and proves that he was a true muslim and prophet of islam, while your inability to prove that Muhammad used force supports otherwise, and that Muhammad is the last prophet.
     
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    Response: Yet the verse is clear and of hatred, as well as your delusion to acknowledge so. "If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:26).
     
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    Response: And if asked of what proof you have that Muhammad did such acts, it goes to the same bogus logic of "because a book says so", which is clearly false logic. For saying so is not proof that it is so. Furthermore, it is hearsay, while the following challenge provides a hands-on eyewitness account that using force to inspire gather enough followers to conquer a nation is humanly impossible, for any person who attempts to try to conquer and control just 5 without a gun by force will fail to do so and will be defeated themself. Thus if one person can not conquer 5 people without getting beat themselves, then it would be simply illogical to conclude that Muhammad conquered a nation based on such force, including using tactics of robbing caravans and starting wars. Islam was spread peacefully by Muhammad and when the non-muslims saw the new rise in power, they seeked to destroy it, but was instead defeated by the muslims in defense. A hands-on eyewitness account is more credible than your hearsay logic of "it's true because a book says so". Debunked as usual.
     

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