Right, all emotion, no facts, no reasoning. You haven't been able to support your position; that should tell you something.
sec…..they have no moral base on this, they simply believe the unborn is nothing and deserves no protection. They compare the unborn to trees and leaves..they think morally the unborn and an insect have the same worth. They don't get it and they never will…they are pro-death to unborn children. They are emotionless….that is why this story backs them against the wall as you see them stumble.
my position?? my position? I did not realize that cherishing life was a "position"? I thought it was something that every decent human being does............I guess I was sadly mistaken.
Insulting your opposition does nothing to support your position, and in fact, is further proof that you are unable to support it.
please point out the insult I won't be holding my breath if supporting life is an insult to you then I am sorry. I did not realize that it is so offensive
Junkieturtle said At the time of conception…I don't care what terms you use….a new life is started a human life. And most abortions happen after the heart has started beating. That is why education especially about fetal development..showing the woman the sonogram of her child is vital. The reason you don't want this education out there…the sonogram to be shown…is because it is emotional. You better believe it. Many pro-choicers have said here that abortion is a tough decision. Why is it tough….tell me please?
It is up to the individual to choose when they believe life begins, it is not up to the pro life crowd to ram their opinions down our throats and pretend they are experts on everything. Life begins at conception, but that life should not be protected until birth, which is when personhood begins.
When does science say life begins? And are you an expert, yes or no? You lurk around here all day posting on abortion threads…its one of your favorite topics. What gives? ARe you a little sweetheart when you respond to those you disagree with? LMAO….life starts at conception…wow that speaks to your heart doesn't it. LOL
Let me get this straight. You admit that life begins at conception, and I completely agree. But then you state that that life should not be protected until birth. Why not?
The only one who can protect that life is the woman, and she usually does, sacrificing her own freedom, health, and possibly even her life. No one else can protect that life; others can only force a woman to make those sacrifices.
and right there in itself we have a moment of honesty. Kudos to Cady for tipping his/her hand and being honest, but the reality however is quite sad. With mindets like that the babies don't stand a chance of avoiding being killed by abortion. heaven forbid should any one of us ever be a "burden" on another.
I don't understand why you think that was a "gotcha" moment. No one has a right to life at the expense of another.
Because a lot of guilt can go along with it. Because it is a potential person. Because a woman may not necessarily want the abortion but feels she has to get it for whatever reasons she may have. You think pro-choicers believe that choosing abortion(or choosing to carry the baby to term for that matter) are easy decisions, ones made on a whim? Are you about to argue that because it is a hard decision, that it's somehow a testament to your position on the issue? A lot of decision in life can be difficult and lead to guilt. Should we ban all instances of hard decisions that may cause guilt? Or just this one because you don't like it?
A burden that no other person in the entire universe can help you bear. A burden that can endanger your health, and affect pretty much every decision you make afterwards. Having a child is the biggest decision a woman can ever make. It's absurd, mean, and inconsiderate to expect a woman to follow through on something just because she may choose a path that makes you have a sad face. "Shucks, I'm sorry, you're a woman, you don't get a choice. You have to accept this life changing event because you shouldn't be allowed to have control over your own body when you're pregnant because you might make a pro-lifer cry"
Ah, that is a nice try, but we all know pro-choicers use the term to dehumanize the baby in this debate. Hell, most pro-choicers won't even agree with calling it a baby, but in every other instance or stage of life they use the exact opposite logic. This is because pro-choicers don't have a solid foundation in this debate. It's standing on quicksand. This is why from 1 thread to the next the baby is a "blob of cells", or "not a baby" or "not a human being" or "not a person", etc, etc, etc. Hell, we now got a thread condoning infanticide by pro-choicers....lol. That is called escalation. What started out as killing just a "blog of cells" has no morphed into killing infants. Can you explain that? This is what happens in reality when you allow 1 evil to escalate into another evil.
Junkieturtle said, Why guilt? It is just a blob of cells right? Or is it more and you just can't admit it? Why should a woman feel guilty over killing a blob of cells? She would be ridiculous right? Its not a baby, not a person….why the guilt? And I do believe in another thread way back you said that women don't regret their abortions…that they feel relief. Or was that Makeede or Cady….one of you said it. Yes I see a little admission of guilt here. You know darn well why a woman would feel guilty…it is a human childs life that is being killed. Lets not use terminate…ok….its killed. And abortion kills. I just can't figure out why you condone killing children junkie.