Women use guns to save themselves from their rapists

The left lost the average white male gun owner vote years ago so they can attack that group without consequence. They cannot make the same attacks against their biggest victim group, women...so they wait for new talking points before having a position.

 

That is opinion, not proof...prove your contention.

 

Does that not assume the woman in question is a simpering fool unqualified with the weapon she is carrying?

 

Most likely when he jumps out from behind some bushes, puts his arm around your throat, cutting off blood supply to your brain, you become unconscious and he has his way with you. Maybe he'll take your pocket book with him and steal your gun while he's at it and another weapon falls into the hands of a criminal.

Sorry to be so blunt, but this is the real world.

 

No, I was actually saying that some women could possibly be strong enough to fight off a rapist without a gun. But if you aren't (and this goes for males too, not that they get raped as much as females) chances are you might not be strong enough to keep your gun out of the rapists hands. That's all I was saying.

 

I cannot wait to see the link to your statistic, and all the caveats attached.

 

Read my other posts where I describe said event and how to avoid it before commenting on what you think my reality is. I have no illusions that I can do anything if I am caught unawares in a tight embrace--aside from maybe gouging out someone's eyes.

I realize that you think women are stupid and weak, therefore you need to explain life to me, but you don't. I know when to run, when to stick your fingers in someone's eye and curl, and when to shoot. Shooting only works if you are far enough away or have the ability to warn someone first.

 

If you are smaller and someone actually has you in his embrace to rape you, showing him you have a gun or knife invites him taking it and using it. All you have are your fingers, knees, and teeth.

I would be less apt to bite only because he might have a blood borne illness, but I have no issue in blinding someone who is trying to harm me in that way.

 

No, it is a strawman situation...It is just as likely he will approach from the front and give one time to react, as is demonstrated in the examples the OP began with

 

I think your being a bit paranoid; nowhere have I ever in this forum ever said that women are stupid and weak but if you have some insecurities, that's something you'll have to deal with. I simply responded to your post as written and obviously you didn't like what I wrote; that's fine, you have that right but I'm standing by what I Posted. QTIP

 

Just because I concur with SCOTUS' interpretation if the 2nd Am, doesn't mean I think you should be prohibited from owning a gun. State's Rights, anybody? Cons, ask yourselves how many states have banned gun ownership. Ask yourselves what legislation has been put forward to accomplish same. Ask yourselves if it's "shall not be infringed" then how are common sense gun laws allowed to stand?

 

As long as the gun grabbers are allowed the power to write the definition for 'common sense' then gun grabber laws will exist, regardless of the constitution.

 

Name one elected official that you would consider a "gun grabber."

 

Senator Lautenberg
Senator Schumer
Senator Feinstein...

The list is endless

 

If you don't feel that women are stupid and weak then refrain from talking down to them about "reality". Many of us have had more of a dose of reality than many of them men who feel the need to explain the reality of our lives to us.

The idea that it might not have occurred to anyone over the age of 5 that people hide and then jump out at you is a form of condescension, just as it is a form of patronizing and coddling to tell women how violence against us occurs. One in every four of us have experienced violence and sexual violence against us. You should perhaps grasp that reality before posting on a forum, where one in four of the women already know about rape and sexual violence from personal experience, how that violence allegedly goes down.

I don't like what you wrote because I think women should have multiple avenues available to them to protect themselves. Here is the reality according to the DOJ:

You're not just raped, you're usually beaten. Now, you would seemingly like us to not have a gun to defend ourselves because we might be silly enough to shoot ourselves or miss or have it taken away. In the CCW classes you are taught not only how to use the gun properly and how to clean it, but when and if to pull it out at all. Sometimes, it can escalate the situation and can be used on you and against you in a court of law.

People do get educated, and women (since it is not culturally acceptable for us to carry them) are more apt not to just buy a gun but to buy it and take the appropriate classes.

 

There you go again, letting your emotions get the best of you because you disagree with something someone has posted. Relax ok? you have your opinion, I have mine.

You and I will have to agree to disagree on this post is all.


QTIP

 

How is it emotional to point out that we are capable of understanding reality? And, I'm fine with us disagreeing, btw, I don't want anyone to go against their principles. If you don't want a gun no one should force you to buy one. Just don't try to limit my ability to protect myself from violent sexual assault.

 

Maybe they were reaching for something else. :O

 

The gun toters can be amazingly histrionic on this issue. Even the slightest call for reason in gun ownership laws results in the toters jumping of buildings screaming "over my dead body!" I'm not opposed to anyone owning a gun in this country, and to using them in self-defense, or any other legal usage of the weapon...but any comment of responsibility in gun ownership instantly creats hysteria among the right. We require laws surrounding driving a car responsibly, the same applies to guns.

 

This thread was actually about women using guns to defend themselves from rapists and then became about gun control as the gun control types leapt in not with an "atta girl" but how women will just shoot themselves in the foot or are too stupid to not have it taken away by the attackers.

Who is in a fit of histrionics again?

 

Naming names is easy. Can you point to a single piece of legislation written by any of them that would "grab" your guns?

The honest answer, of course, is "no" you cannot.

 

Yea, sure. Whatever you do, don't go back and read YOUR OP to see where you practically begged for this thread to become exactly what it did.

 

I for one am also concerned that men are being killed -- forever removed from existence -- in response to perceived impending rape. While rape is a vile crime, it alone never warrants the death penalty.

 

I didn't create the thread, nor did I beg. You're being silly. I said that women have the right to self defend.

 

Have you ever been raped?

EDIT: What men are being killed for perceived rape? Also, who advocated that?