Scared jews leaving europe

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  1. Borat

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    Oh please! you muslims are the biggest bullies in the world, stop whining and pretending to be victims when in every incident you are the aggressor and the murderer, the bombs are dropped on the heads of your terrorists (aka your heroes), too bad they hide behind children.
     
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    fixed



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    To Abu and all others...


    keep it down please......you disturb my summer vocation :relax:
     
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    Like the brave and fearless IDF warriors who like to use children as human shields, you mean? Oh, I forgot, those naughty soldiers were 'punished' for breaching a child's human rights by being demoted. So that's alright then.
     
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    soooo .... nobody has answered my question ....

    where are they going to?
     
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    well actually ... thats a good point.

    I am well aware of some of the economic losses sustained by women as recently as my mother's generation for no reason, other than that they were born without dicks.

    and I can't understand why I can't get a permanent visa for England, Ireland, Germany, Norway and France and have equal rights to those of citizens ... I can prove some of my forebears hailed from those countries.
     
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    Funny I have been reading about Jews leaving Israel since about 2007.. Also moving money and applying for foreign passports.
     
  9. Borat

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    It's a pretty dumb point actually, typical logical fallacy. Women were fighting for equal rights with men, not their own country and by and large they got what they were fighting for (except for the muslim world of course). Jews as a people also wanted equal rights with other peoples - they wanted their land back. In case of the Jews it was not just a matter of equal rights, having their own state was a matter of survival.
     
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    they are also moving TO Israel ....

    which has relatively high immigration rates ... but unlike its neighbours, it doesn't really take in refugees like its neighbours do.

    it isn't really a good global citizen state.
     
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    history has never been your strong point.

    in terms of property and inheritance rights, muslim women, legally, were better off than most western women until only about 100 years ago.

    for jews who have settled in israel in the last few decades - it wasn't a matter of survival.

    its more a matter of invading other people's land.
     
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    It's surprising that the fact of muslim women being subservient to men can even be a matter of debate (their inheritance rights notwithstanding). My point was that the comparison between women and jews was absurd. Women fought for what men had, for what they were entitled to get and they got it, Jews fought for what other nations/ethnicities had and they also got it.
     
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    so .... back to the op.

    if jews are being intimidated in europe and forced to flee ... where are they going?
     
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    A multiple-entry visa? You're not being serious;)
     
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    due to my heritage ... I should have honourary citizenship of said countries ... and some more as well no doubt!

    if any jew, regardless of proof, can have israeli citizenship ... then in a fair and just world, I should have citizenship entitlents in countries when I can prove a genuine ancestral link.
     
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    OK. I'll put you in for the night.
     
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    Iran probably

    Seems the Jews have no problem living in Iran and I guess thats why they want to invade them next.

    There has to be some psychotic reason.....
     
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    Florida, New York, New Jersey and Israel. The French Jews prefer Florida.
     
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    They must be interested in your rapture.
     
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    do you have some stats on that?
     
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    Right...that's must be why the Jewish community in Iran has lost 90% of its members in less than 50 years, it's 10 times smaller than it was because Jews have no problem living in Iran. As always you make a lot of sense LOL
     
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    Arab Jews left in waves.. in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973... That has been one cost of European Zionism.
     
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    Quite Right, Jack, I first heard about the Robbed Cossacks from Uri Avnery (wink)

    extract " there is a lot of bitter irony in the old Jewish adage "a robbed Cossack". It describes a Cossack who not only causes havoc, murders, rapes and plunders, but also accuses his victims of robbing him. The perpetrator pretends to be the victim, the robber pretends to be robbed.

    Israel is gradually becoming a "robbed Cossack". An alien on Mars, following Israeli broadcasts on inter-stellar satellite, would get the impression that it is the Palestinians who are maintaining a cruel occupation of Israel and that Palestinian soldiers are roaming the Israeli towns.



    This is explained by the competition for the international media. Each side to the conflict paints itself as the victim in order to gain the support of world public opinion, which always tends towards the weak. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has become a kind of championship fight between two grand masters of victimization.

    But the phenomenon is more profound. For generations the Jews were persecuted in many countries and developed the consciousness of victims. It could almost been said that most of the Jewish culture created during the last two or three centuries revolves around this axis. The Holocaust, of course, strengthened this central motif even further.

    The Zionist enterprise in this country should have changed this pattern. After all, the Zionist penetration drove the Palestinians from their lands and turned most of them into refugees. In this historic struggle, the Palestinians lost: lands, villages, great parts of the country. This process is still going on daily.

    Now the Palestinians have come and demanded for themselves the victim’s crown of thorns. Nothing offends the Israelis more. It seems to us the height of Chutzpah, an attack on the core of our national consciousness. Therefore we react with fury. We describe the intifada as a malicious attack on our existence. We have brought back from the junk-yard the slogans of past generations: the Arabs want to throw us into the sea, they want to take Haifa and Jaffa from us. Forgotten is the fact that we have the mightiest army in the region, that Israel within the Green Line possesses 78% of the country, that we now control the rest of the country (the West Bank and the Gaza Strip) too, that we enjoy a vast superiority in almost all fields. Forgotten is the fact that the Palestinians demand for themselves a mere 22% of the country and that the intifada is an uprising against an occupation that has been going on with increasing brutality for 34 years already.

    Never mind! We are the victims, and we shall bash the head of anyone who tries to rob us of this title.

    And if Israel is the robbed Cossack par excellence, then the settlers even more so


    More here :

    http://www.mediamonitors.net/uri31.html

    ....
     
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    Jews go where they believe the grass is greener . Those who were foolish enough migrating to Israel soon discovered it was'nt their "promised land " Israelis of distant Central European decent , soon filtered back to Germany/Austria etc. incl. Poland ... plus :-

    (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Jews who fled oppression in the former Soviet Union are returning to Russia to make the most of an economic boom, even though a new strain of anti-Semitism is emerging in their old homeland.

    Around one million Jews fled during the Soviet era and the post-communist chaos. Those returning now from Israel, the United States and Europe hope to use their new skills and old knowledge to do business.

    "Now there are services here, like in New York and Paris, but the lifestyle is more interesting than in either of them -- it's easy to understand why thousands are coming back," said Yevgeny Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress.

    Hard statistics on Jews returning to Russia do not exist, said Satanovsky, but anecdotal evidence is there. He estimates 80,000-120,000 Russian Jews have returned, plus many more who originated in other Soviet republics.

    "If you look at industry or banking you'll find thousands of families who have come back," he said.

    The Israeli embassy in Moscow estimates around 90,000 of its citizens live in Russia
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    Ari Rozichner moved to Israel from Ukraine, then part of the Soviet Union, with his parents as a boy in the early 1970s.

    "The main difference between my immigration wave and that of the 90s was conceptual," he says, adding that his parents had believed in a Jewish state, while a later generation left "because supermarket shelves were empty".

    "Israel has a nice climate -- it's better than winter in Moscow with the black snow," he said.

    After working in Israel, the United States and Japan, he has settled in Moscow as an associate vice president of sales with Gilat satellite networks. His clients include state agencies which want to bring the Internet to remote Siberian schools.

    "I have one foot here, one foot there. My family is in Israel, it's a different life for them, whereas Moscow is a huge megapolis, the distances are huge, to get by is not easy and life is very expensive," he said.

    But "there are more opportunities here, Israel is like a village," he said from his offices in a Moscow suburb.

    Apart from the economic transformation, Rozichner says there has been a dramatic change in the official attitude to Jews, who once had a letter 'J' marked in their internal Soviet passports.

    "In Russia now, I feel very comfortable as a Jew."
    Holocaust Day, January 27, was marked in Moscow schools for the first time this year. Kremlin-friendly Russian billionaire and Jewish European Congress President Moshe Kantor initiated the programme with the Moscow government.

    "We are already seeing concrete steps in the right direction," added Rabbi Goldschmidt.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/05/06/us-israel-palestinians-1948-russia-idUSL118299720080506



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    Stats? No, stats don't exist for everything. Somebody would have to actually spend time and create such a thing. Do you have stats for how many times muslims chew their food?

    Anyway, I have a link and that should satisfy you. http://www.ieg-ego.eu/en/threads/europe-on-the-road/jewish-migration
     
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