The Ecomony will not Recover until the Government Spends MORE Money!!

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  1. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    It's the path we have been on for over a century and we are now the largest economy in the history of mankind. I think you are just making things up.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh I understand compounding, the problem is there isn't a compounding national debt because you are making it up.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Inflation makes people spend money... well according to historical data, which I know you aren't a big fan of.
     
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    No, to me sound money is quantity and quality determined by the markets and not by central banks. I do not think a gold standard is a viable solution. I do share the identification of a flawed system with "gold bugs". That I appreciate because we are bringing momentary policy into the discussion.


    Edwin C. Riegel:
    "To trade goods and services is a natural right of all people, to issue money necessary to make these exchanges is also the natural right of all people who are intelligent enough to do so. We need not beg for money, we need not be money slaves, we can be money masters. When we have become money masters we shall master all our economic and political problems."
     
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    1. I didn't say there was
    2. There is a compounding total debt and the FED will need to monetize at a infinite exponential rate in order to keep the naturally occurring write down of debt an contraction from taking place.

    You're not very good in math are you ?
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I guess I don't understand how the current system is not determined by the markets. The central banks just determine the cost of borrowing. The Govt/Banks determine the quantity. And it's been a conclusion for decades that inflation is a necessary evil that is proven to be the most effective way of making money move. The flow of money is the most important part of an economy. And with that flow, people can make more money on their assets, investments, or wages. So the people that increase their earnings have more money to spend which in turn can create price inflation. I just don't think the alternative to the system provides any benefits to the overall economy. Of course in any system there are going to be winners and losers, I think our system provides an atmosphere for the most winners possible given their worth to society. As in even people who have no worth to society still have access to some sort of income because money and products are so plentiful in this country.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    You made this up. There is not compounding total debt and the Fed does not monetize at an infinite exponential rate in order to keep the naturally occurring write down of debt an contraction from taking place.

    You're not very good in math are you?
     
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    Roelath Well-Known Member

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    That's your rebuttal? "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!" ... Nothing more? You don't even bother to answer the first question. Answer the question(s) or don't even bother making topics if your intended plan is to attack other posters and deflect. Go back to your six month hiatus.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Lol, stay on topic and don't make up conspiracies and we can talk. You are clearly not understanding the purpose of this thread based on your comments. Try again and try harder!
     
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    Roelath Well-Known Member

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    Not on topic? It is clearly on topic because it relates to you in wishing the Government would spend more. So let me ask you again...

    1. WHY DO YOU HOLD MORE FAITH TOWARDS THE GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN TO THE INDIVIDUAL?

    2. WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERY INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN ACQUIRING A PORTION OF SAID STIMULUS?
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    That's so childish.

    Or trollish. Now run along and continue with your ridiculous statements.
     
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    thank god for the govt...
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I'm done feeding this troll. He has derived too much attention and satisfaction from our validation of his mindless rants. If you respond, you are letting him win. Keep that in mind.
     
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    How does it feel to be a tool of a useless and morally-bankrupt political party?

    A$$-clown.
     
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    Roelath Well-Known Member

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    Is akphidelt2007 also Mike12? Funny how he appears with little to no posts and right when akph disappears this magical new poster supporting him appears.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Because when it comes to the Government, they are more organized and have the power to enforce the law that protects and secures our monetary system.

    Because not every individual needs a portion of said stimulus
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Ask the mods to compare our IP's. I guarantee you I only have one name. I don't need multiple accounts to prove you guys have no clue what you are talking about.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    How does it feel to be really uneducated and brainwashed by your wealthy masters?
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    I'd quit if I were you too. You have been embarrassing from the beginning and don't even have the slightest clue what I'm talking about. Farewell!!
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Because you are blatantly lying. There was nothing you posted that proved me wrong. You were using semantics and trying to prove a point that has nothing to do with my economic theory. Nice try though!!
     
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    Roelath Well-Known Member

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    Because they have less power so they don't deserve it? Okay so you're an Authoritarian. That's confirmed. You have no trust in the Individual at all... that is why I will never agree with you. Your God is Government.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Guys, I've made 7 points that state facts about the monetary system. If you guys don't know how to refute those points then it would be best not to open your mouth. Because what I'm getting so far is very embarrassing. Very few facts, data, graphs, or knowledge of economics being displayed here. Maybe some of you righties should just start asking me questions and I will just teach you this stuff rather than arguing these incredibly insignificant points you bring up!
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Now you are lying again. I didn't say I didn't have trust in the individual. I said the Government should be entrusted with the monetary system because of their ability to enforce laws and their organization. That's as simple as it gets. Just like every other country in the entire world. It just so happens that a more organized society tends to be a more productive society.
     
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    Mike,

    They invented this thing called, "SpellCheck".

    Look into it, Junior.

    Every time you post in this manner, you reveal yourself to be a fool and a moron.

    Just some honest and helpful advice.
    You'll thank me later.

    Sparky
     
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    sparky2 Banned

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    I have no masters, you silly fool.
    I am a member of no political party.

    I am highly educated, and I am a man of science.

    You, on the other hand?

    Not so much, I fear.
     
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