Why is there an orchestrated effort to normalize and legitimaize homosexuality?

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  1. funinsnow

    funinsnow Banned by Member Request

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    Homophobia is a good thing. Jerry Sandusky is a homosexual who did that. Gay/lesbian groups are not to be trusted and transexuals are worse. In 2007, gay/lesbian groups condemned then MSNBC host Tucker Carlson after he talked of how when he was a teen, he had bashed:smile: a gay who was harassing him in a DC mall restroom. Tucker Carlson bashed the gay who was harassing him in the bathroom, then tied the gay up and called the cops who arrested the gay. It wouldn't surprise me if that gay had even committed homosexual rapes in the past against teenage boys in public restrooms. The bathroom is not the place for sex. That gay was harassing a teenage Tucker Carlson in a mall bathroom and Tucker Carlson defended himself against the gay.
     
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    Oh, and we're not people- we're "the gay"- big, scary monsters against whom there is no defense. :roll:
     
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    The problem is that the state injected itself where it never belonged in the first place. I don't see a legitamate reason for the state to inject itself into any private consentual behavior between two consenting adults. I think that's the ultimate answer to why the "push" -- we've put up an unneeded barrier. If two people consent to a behavior, and both are of legal age, there's no reason for the state to be there. If a priest wants to marry two guys, why is it that the state gets to veto that? I thought we had freedom of religion here, so why isn't a church allowed to define the sacrement of marriage for itself? Which I guess is somewhat different than it being just a gay-rights issue, I see it as a libertarian issue -- a place where the government never had any business being in the first place.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The Catholic "priest" is only prevented by his church from marrying two people of the same sex. Go to the local Church of Christ or similiar denomination and the preacher can marry whomever he likes. Even here in conservative Central Texas two gays can find a church to have a wedding ceremony.
    And there is one reason and one reason alone. PATERNITY. The husband is presumed to be the father of any child his wife bears. Obligated by law to support both his wife and children.
     
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    Religion did not invent marriage. Marriage is a civil legal agreement that predates religion. It's religion that hijacked marriage, not the other way around.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_institution_of_marriage_invented
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Notice the complete irrelevance to two people of the same sex?
     
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    Yep. I could come to this forum, and find some of the BEST examples of homophobia, to place beside the very definition of the word.

    Many here, just don't 'see' what they are communicating.

    Even so, I'm done (and so are many others) being tolerant about homophobia.
     
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    I heard that. Same here. There is no reason to tolerate not being treated equally. People can call us all kinds of terrible things, I don't care. But where the law is concerned, there is no compromise. All people are to be treated equally.
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    I was once in agreement that the word "homophobia" and other forms were overused. Now, after reviewing the actual definition of the term and subsequently hearing/seeing many thousands of Americans express their views on homosexuality... I realize more than ever that the term should be used regularly.

    Homophobia, abounds in this society. And it isn't something that should be tolerated.
     
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    Amen to that!!
     
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    Copy and paste a quote from me that you think best demonstrates this homophobia you have accused me of 100 times. Or are you just going to tell us what you COULD do because you would not actually do so?
     
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    It isn't solely about your words, dixon. But in my view, you have communicated many homophobic thoughts over time.
     
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    But I have only shared with you here, WORDS.
     
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    What?! dixon, you are communicating your ideas and opinions... whether you realize it or not.

    Come on.
     
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    No, you read into my words what is not there.
     
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    So you say.
     
  17. RightToLife

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    idk I wish I knew the answer. People are obsessed with the gays idk why
     
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    Seems to me that homophobia causes many to be "obsessed" with homosexuality for no good reason.
     
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    Why are you obsessed with it? For someone who claims to hold it in contempt you speak about it quite frequently.

    Usually we shy away from things we don't like, not run full force into them.
     
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    You're obsessed with us- why?
     
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    gays need to take a hike.... go live in canada
     
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    I'd have thought there's some good hiking in the USA. They wouldn't have to go all the way to Canada, let alone live there (though I'm sure it's lovely to visit). :cool:
     
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    copied and pasted from Peter J. LaBarbera's Americans for Truth site where the truth is told of sex abuse especially homosexual rape being major cause of homosexuality/transexuality. The post below was written by gays and lesbians who aren't happy about being homos:

    G.A.G.A., Gays Against the Gay Agenda. We are a group of gay men and women who want to join the fight against the gay political agenda because we know the truth.

    Here are a few of our stories. Names have been changed for our safety:

    From Abe: I was sexually molested by a neighbor when I was young. I was in counseling for years but as a teen started having gay relationships with other boys. I always said I was born gay but deep down inside I knew that my experiences as a boy were the cause. I still live a gay lifestyle but I know it’s wrong. It’s like a drug. You know it’s wrong, but you keep doing it.

    From Adam: My Little League baseball coach molested me when I was 5. I blocked it out of my memory for years but it came rushing back to me one day in my twenties when I was in a car wreck. The trauma somehow pushed it back into my conscious memory. I am gay and always thought it was in my genes, but now I realize differently. I have considered going to counseling but it’s probably too late for me. It’s not too late for me to warn others though.

    From Allan: My mother was a prostitute and drug addict. She had sex with other men in front of us kids all the time. Some of the men took advantage of us after taking advantage of her. I have been a part of the gay community since age 14 but I know I was not born this way.

    From Anna: I was a foster child. I was molested many times by 3 different foster fathers. I chose to be lesbian because I do not feel comfortable with men in sexual situations.

    From Amos: I was in love with a beautiful girl in high school. We started dating. I wanted to have sex. She did not. One night, with some high school friends, I got drunk. I think someone put something in my drink because I passed out. When I woke up, my best friend was giving me oral sex. It scared me because it felt wrong but felt good at the same time. The sex part felt good, but the fact that he was a guy felt wrong. I pushed him away and got dressed. I stomped out of the house. But one night at another party, I was drunk and he showed up. Next thing I knew I was in his car with him and not refusing his advances. I live a gay lifestyle now but I know that if that had never happened, I would probably be married with kids and living a normal life. I would be happy. I am not happy in this lifestyle. I don’t know how to explain why I don’t leave it but I am not happy.

    From Andrew: I had no friends in high school. Some other students started being really nice to me. I felt like I finally had friends. They gave me a lot of attention and made me feel like I was part of something. It felt great. They were all part of the Gay Straight Alliance (GSA). They invited me to go with them. At first, I was there as a straight guy to give support to gays and fight against bullying (I had been through my fair share). But then we started socializing outside school. One day, at a party, I was high on drugs, and next thing I knew there was an orgy, and I was lured into it. Afterward, I felt sick. I skipped school for a week but then my parents found out. When I got back to school my friends were really nice and acted as if nothing had happened. It was surreal. Long story short, I ended up in a lot of gay relationships over the years but I know that if I had not had that first relationship, I would not be gay today. What’s weird is I can’t just switch back to the me I was before. I don’t know why but I know I was not born gay. I tell all younger friends to stay away from drugs and alcohol because you do things you normally would not do when you are under the influence and you are sometimes too weak to say no to things you know are wrong.

    From Alice: My college roommate lured me into a gay relationship. The sex can feel good but you just know there’s something wrong. I definitely was not born gay.

    It is our hope that many gays will stand up and tell the truth by forming small community groups to fight against the gay political agenda. Let your friends call you a traitor. You know better. We mustn’t have a central leader or that leader will be bullied into backing down. Like the Tea Party, we will be leaderless but powerful. We must help young people avoid what we fell into. Join with your straight fiends and make a difference. Save the date:

    12-12-12 @ 12:00 On December 12, 2012, at 12 midnight, straight people and gay people who are against the gay political agenda, must walk outside with a candle, lighter, or flashlight and raise it in the air to show our solidarity. Let it shine upward into the sky. If you live in a cold climate, dress warmly. Stay for at least 30 minutes and let shine your courage, your determination, your knowledge that gay people are mostly victims, and we know we are being used to further an agenda.
     
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    wow... thats some intense stuff.
     
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    My understanding of libertarian society is that the government act as a judge.
    The judgement is necessary when there is a possibility of event that affect WHOLE society. In case of relationship between man and woman childbirth occurs in at least 50% of cases. That event should be anticipated managed and regulated.
    Moreover government has an obligation to establish the procedures and regulations to preserve life of the newborn and provide optimal environment for rearing that child.
    For that purpose government (i.e. society) have special arrangement i.e. set of laws called marriage.

    Relationship between two people of the same sex has ZERO effect on the society, so there is no need for special rights for same sex couples.
    That is true libertarian point of view.
     

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