New Travon Martin Pic ~ # 2

Trayvon Martin was living with his father for an indeterminate length of time.

It's not racism. I mean, it's not Martin's fault that he failed to know that the person stalking him was a psycho. Don't blame the victim.

Getting in a shouting match and elbowing somebody in the face doesn't warrant being shot to death.
Getting into a confrontation doesn't warrant being shot to death.


Obviously, Martin didn't get a gun or beat Zimmerman up*, so I don't know why you mentioned that.

* Unless you consider 3 boo boos to be "beaten up"

 

Sanford and Seminole County have a fair percentage of blacks so at least one or two should be on the jury. If the jury is 100% white Z will be found not guilty because an all-white Florida jury will not convict a white for killing a black. If the jury has several blacks (it won't) chances are Z will get convicted of some type of crime.

The bottom line: if the jury is all-white there's no reason to waste time presenting the evidence. The "not guilty" verdict is a sure thing.

 

The jury should be all asian for fairness.

 

Alot of Asians don't really like blacks.

 

The source to this lie? Martin was staying with his father while he was suspended from school.

 

Well, Asians do comprise 3.7% of the Seminole County population so it's feasible to get 12 out of that group.

 

They don't like being profiled based on their race either.

 

I hate trials...

You have a simple event. TM and GZ got into an altercation which resulted in the fatal shooting of the former by the latter.

Since there is no direct evidence, mountains of obscure and bizarre information are piled onto the case as time drags on in what seems to be a desperate bid to convince rather than prove a point- one side or the other.

 

I'm asking for an explanation of an assertion not a yes or no demand to a false choice question which as I recall yours was. I'm not trying to trap her into a simple yes or no am I. I want her full verbose explanation as I gave to you.

If Margot wants to withdraw her assertion so be it, if not she should post the law in it's entirety, not partically as she has in the past and explain how Zimmerman's actions constituted an assault and a stalking under Florida law as she claims.

 

YOU need to LISTEN, he didn't know where Martin was it was impossible for him to be following him, the replay was not literal. And even if he was still looking to see where he might have run off to SO HE COULD TELL THE DISPATCHER AS HE WAS REQUESTED TO DO.................so what. What does it have to do with whether he pulled the trigger in self defense?

Pure and utter conjecture, made up just like your made up claims about him assaulting and stalking Martin.

So when are you going to accept or decline the challenge?

 

He told the dispatcher to just tell them to call him when they arrived as they might arrive and go around the perimeter while he was walking back towards the mailboxes and they would miss each other. So best to just call him when they got on the property.

And beyond that he was perfectly within his rights to be looking for the suspicious person who had run off had he been doing so. Doing so would NOT give Martin license to assault him.

 

So you agree Martin engaged in a battery against Zimmerman.

So how is it the was an assault under Florida law on Martin as you claim?

 

Judging from this thread, a lot of whites don't really like blacks either.

 

What you don’t seem to understand is that it’s a question of integrity and I’m saying point blank you don’t have any, people with integrity will live up to the standard they set for others which you failed miserably at. You asked me a slightly leading question and demanded I answered yes or no, which I did regardless of the fact that the answer gave support to the point you were making, no harm no foul on your part, perfectly fair. But when I played by the same rules you took the rout of a weasel and refused to live up to the standard you set for me, so from time to time I will throw it back in your face, no foul on my part at all, perfectly fair of me, if you don’t dig it man up and show some integrity. I won’t be holding my breath

 

Aww, you just assume I am white. Very interesting. Why is that?

 

I disagree had the cops showed up to just a fight and Trayvon said Zimmy started it, then Zimmy would have a world of problems on his hands. Assaulting a kid while in possession of a gun would be prison for sure, and who do you think the cops would believe? The way I see it pulling that trigger at that point was a calculated risk, dead men tell no tails, and Zimmy knew well enough what to say to try to pull off a SYG position, it almost worked, but he just didn’t know when to shut up and lawyer up, now he is up on M2, with a boat load of inconsistencies and a DA with a 90+% conviction rate and a desperate attorney.

 

Well, there was a fight how complicated is that, and believe me this is about a hell of a lot more than just a few seconds, but you’re going to see that for yourself next month

 

There was no situation until Zimmy came along and created one

 

Asked why he was being followed and then hollered get off get off

 

Um ... Maybe George went out looking for Chineese like at Lee ho Fook's.
I mean if Trayvon was " just walking Home " maybe George was just
looking for take out.
huh ... I'd like to meet his tailor.
Aaahoo! Werewolves of London
Aaahoo !

 

Cuz you walk like a Queen ?
I saw a werewolf drinkin' a Pina colada at Trader Vics ... once.

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Pardy yer Um.
I beg yer pardy ... Ma'am.

 

You are assuming facts not in evidence. The 911 dispatcher specifically asked if Zimmerman was going to meet the Officers at the Mailboxes. This tells me that this is where the Officers normally met 911 callers. In the 18 months prior the incident there had been 402 911 calls from the Retreat at Twin Lakes. That averages to better then two calls a day. So, I think it is safe to assume that there was a procedure for meeting with callers. That being to meet them at the mailboxes.

I agree that the fact that Zimmerman had followed Martin did not mean that Martin was justified in attacking Zimmerman, But ZImmerman should have waited ay the mailboxes as he originally said he would.

 

You're right, it doesn't warrant being shot, but a prudent intelligent person recognizes the possibility and puts his hands at his side.


Nowhere EVER have you seen me BLAME Trayvon for the entire incident, but I do believe he does bear responsibility for his own actions as well. The ONLY right answer in my quiz would be


“C. Do not get into a confrontation period... Cops are on the way “


No dispatcher, no cop, no responsible parent would ever consider any other answer acceptable.


Trayvon made a choice and suffered the consequence. If you somehow believe castigating George Zimmerman is in any way going to help Trayvon Martin or his family you are sorely mistaken. IF Zimmerman is found guilty and sentenced to the maximum... Trayvon Martin will still be dead, EVEN IF HE WAS DEAD RIGHT.


My point is less about punishing anyone and more about learning from the situation.


What we do in the future gives meaning to what happened in the past.


If found guilty, tossing George Zimmerman in jail will punish him and impact his family.


If we leave it at that Trayvon is just another dead black kid among thousands every year. If we try to turn his death into a lesson it may prevent future Trayvon's.


The lesson is for people, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE to get their hormones in check and forget about being macho in such situations. Fist fights don't end with a bloody nose in the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] century, they escalate as Trayvon demonstrated.


Teach your kid to act like Trayvon in such a situation and you stand every chance of the same result.... Think George sitting I jail will make the Martin Family feel better? I don't, their child is still rotting in a box covered with dirt and I would bet my last cigar that they wish they taught him what I'm suggesting.... He would be alive today... but typical kid... he knew better and he was “RIGHT”; DEAD RIGHT.

 

"Just another dead kid"?

George should have kept his harmones in check too and his fantasies.

 

If you wish to quote... do so. If all you got out of this sentence is

There's not much point in wasting electrons on you.... Keep hatin' George and sanctifying Trayvon if it makes you feel better. I'm sure another young adult will waste his or her life being stupid proving themselves RIGHT and you'll be there wailing at the injustice.