Egypt's second revolution - June 30 2013 !!

Egyptian Foreign Minister Mohammed Kamel Amr steps down deserting sinking ship

SCAF Sami Anan who was Tantawi right hand man quits as aid to president

Obama will be next to drop Morsi no doubt

 

if you seriously think Egyptians care about your US Aid for the Treaty of Camp David which you are obliged to pay anyway think again

All those millions couldn't care less

you have enough problems to deal with with your soon to be ex allies

ask Francois Hollande or Merkel!

 

I do not know if the credo of the brotherhood includes grinning
a smile with the US, AFAIK it's just a platform that they could change anytime
they wish, well, their supposed politicking and symbiosis relation did work out seemingly for them and the US but not entirely with the egyptian people.
The brotherhood is 600,000 strong and the people needs the military to do the wipe out.
As per the US I guess it's interest depends entirely towards the will of the majority
of the Egyptian people if this discordance would escalate. They do not wish to be
branded as oppressors, I think.

 

“I want to tell the US administration: you are so fake because when you talk about democracy you don’t really mean it.
You supported [ousted President Hosni] Mubarak for 30 years because he was serving your interests and when you found someone else [President Mohamed Morsi] who could serve these interests you decided to support him – against the will of the population,” said Madiha, a woman in her 30s protesting near the presidential palace in Heliopolis on Sunday.

Wearing a headscarf in the colours of the Egyptian flag, Madiha, a pharmacist, said that she could not believe “the stupidity of the Americans. They are making the same mistakes; they are siding with the dictator and I am sure that in a few days they will realise they've made a mistake and they will try to convince us that they were on our side. But this time it will not work.”

she is saying what most people now think of the USA

even who it thought were it's allies

 

Actually...it is the Egyptian Military Leadership that CARES A GREAT DEAL!

This leadership has been skimming MILLIONS OF DOLLARS over many years from U.S. Aid and although this would seem a bad thing....it is the single solitary reason that the Military did not crackdown on the Egyptian Population during the Revolution as well as the reason the Muslim Brotherhood is being kicked out of Egypt.

Also...look at the link I provided that details both U.S. Military Leaders and those of Egypt saying to themselves and others HOW STRONG THE RELATIONSHIP between both Military's are and how it will remain so for many years.

Look at it. This just came out.

So is just happening the removal of the Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt.

AboveAlpha

 

so far 12 cabinet ministers resign and 3 governors

soon no one left except Morsi and Qandil



Egypt News reporting Morsi received call from Obama and said US deals with elected leaders

I guess there can't be a TV in Air Force One or in his African hotel rooms last week then

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaraaaaaaaaaaaaaaab!!!!!!

Wait!!!! tomorrow when he watches the news he will be saying he is behind the Egyptian people

 

Check out that link I provided a few posts before this one.

It details both American and Egyptian Military Leaders declaring the continued close relationship of both Military's.

As well...at the same time the Muslim Brotherhood is being removed from Egypt. This is not coincidence...this is a WELL PLANNED AND DETAILED OPERATION....in which the Egyptian Military, Security Forces and Egyptian Intelligence Agencies are all in close contact and communication with the CIA, DIA and the U.S. Military's CENTCOM.

Here is a list of CENTCOM's area of influence...

Located between the European and Pacific combatant commands, U.S. Central Command’s area of responsibility covers the "central" area of the globe and consists of 20 countries -- Afghanistan, Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, SaudiArabia, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, and Yemen.

Egypt's Military has several Liasison Officers who work directly with the U.S. Military's CENTCOM.

AboveAlpha

 

Oh...PLEASE!

If Egypt could just get it's S#!% Together we wouldn't have to be Babysitting the damn country all the time!

The ONLY REASON....that HOSNI MUBARAK didn't send in the Egyptian Military to crush any and all dissent during the uprising was....BECAUSE THE UNITED STATED WOULDN'T ALLOW HIM TO!

The CIA conveyed the message to Mubarak and the Egyptian Military that Mubarak's reign was OVER and he was told to STEP DOWN.

Your Military Leadership was told by both the CIA and DIA as well as direct Military to Military communications were on going between Egypt's Military and CENTCOM...as Egypt has several Liasison's assigned to CENTCOM to NOT ATTACK THE EGYPTIAN POPULATION if Mubarak order it...and believe me he wanted to.

AboveAlpha

 

Oh God!!!!

Obama is telling Morsi to "show he is responsive to the concerns of the protesters"

Seriously!!

I mean seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bassem Yusuf needs to get that American president on as one of his guests!

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kaza kaza kaza

you should have your own show


here call Tawfik and see if he can give you your own show on his channel

 

Even if this is true (and it smells true) US is running out of friends and collaborators , you know not everyone can be corrupted by CIA's influence and take Ecuador as an example, their previous president died in a "crash" now Corea is giving you the finger . From what i saw in the protests the average Egyptian will not allow another puppet to take over .

 

LOL!

You are too funny! LOL!

Seriously though...if you think it is just a coincidence that within 24 hours a major press release detailing the statements of the Egyptian Military's agreement to continue long term Military cooperation with the United States Military...as well as the Egyptian Military agreeing that both countries have common interests and that their being granted huge amounts of U.S. Aid is in the interest of Egypt....

....and then at the same time the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD is issued an ULTIMATUM....and you don't think the two issues are connected...well then you are deluding yourself.

AboveAlpha

 

This U.S./Egypt Military Cooperation and Aid Agreement is in the interests of BOTH COUNTRIES.

The rest of the world WILL NOT invest a single DIME into Egypt until such an agreement between the U.S. and Egyptian Military's was made public for all to see.

As far as the World is concerned...ONLY an Islamic or primarily Muslim Country that has an accord with the United States and United States Military is worth the risk of investing in.

Without this....Stamp of Approval....Egypt would have ZERO CHANCE of finding investors to save the Egyptian Economy.

These are the simple facts.

AboveAlpha

 

This post could be very reasonable if you were not so completely broke , US simply does not have enough real money to invest anywhere but prints fiat ones to keep the ECB alive and show some minimum "growth" at home in order to keep the markets far from panic. At the other hand China and Russia can pour cash in AND sell cheap high tech weaponry designed to kill American toys Israel is using. It is in Egypt' s best interests to cut ties with the west and look north & east .

 

I am not talking about either the morality of economic feasibility of this issue. I am simply talking about the REALITY OF THE ISSUE.

People like Abu Sina do not like to either look at or hear such realities but they exist never the less.

The Egyptian Military was following the orders given to it by it's Leadership and that Leadership was acting under the orders of the CIA, DIA and CENTCOM.

Such is the reality of Egypt as well is the current reality of the removal of the influence in Egypt of the Muslim Brotherhood.

AboveAlpha

 

Also...regardless of how a person feels about such a relationship existing it is a matter of FACT that had this relationship between the U.S. Military and the Egyptian Military not existed...MANY MANY EGYPTIAN PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED.

But since this relationship DID exist and the Egyptian Leadership wanted this relationship to continue...they had to follow the orders of the CIA, DIA and CENTCOM.

Let us all be happy they did.

AboveAlpha

 

Army flying over Tahrir

 

Ikhwan walking in their shrouds

MB is dead

 

The era of the strawmen have passed , you saw what happen with the guy US administration was grooming to take over Syria, info about his islamist fanatic past was revealed in no time and the media in Europe start bashing on the EU leader supporting him.
What i am trying to say is that you can no longer put a puppet to the throne with the blessings of the army and there is no guarantee that the next popular government will not retire current generals and replacing them with ones they can trust.

You are making a false assumption here, Egyptians are not westerners and from what they have shown so far they will go against live ammunition to achieve their goal so how many will die is not an issue for them .

 

I have nothing but hope for Egypt as I feel it could become a great nation. But it will never achieve this as long as it would allow itself to become strict Islamic State.

In that event...no country or Corporations would invest into it as it sorely needs such investment.

You keep on talking about an Egyptian Leader being a U.S. Puppet.

This is the current REALITY of Egypt and I will just talk of the facts...not whether or not it is right or wrong.

Currently...the Egyptian Military Leadership is in a VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP with the U.S. Military. This will mean...BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in U.S. Aid as well as access to High Tech. U.S. Weapon Systems.

REGARDLESS of what Leader is in power in Egypt....the MILITARY has been the one true stabilizing FORCE in Egypt. It was the MILITARY that prevented Bloodshed during the Revolution and it will be the MILITARY that make sure that any current or future Egyptian Leader does not do anything that could harm the people.

The Egyptian People hailed their Military during the Revolution and they LOVE their MILITARY.

Still...the fact remains...and will remain for quite some time to come....that their beloved Military takes orders from CENTCOM.

AboveAlpha

 

Replying with bullet points to keep the post short

* I don't think that Morsi had a KSA in mind and as a new republic Egypt one way or another will pass through conservative governments anyway , in my opinion it is better for them to have the experience of an islamist government in order to move forward . The way the things came new government will have to do too much in too short time , probably fail and people will start remember Morsi again .

*I never denied the close relationship Egyptian army has with CIA i just doubt that it will last

*People will love their military for as long as it keeps a popular stance , so far the general feeling is against US "interests" .

*The west can not interfere in Egyptian matters without information leaking to the internet

 

One other thing...if you look at all the other uprisings that took place in the Middle East...you will soon realize that ONLY EGYPT had an uprising that succeeded as well was the only one where the Dictator or Religious Leadership did not send in the Military or Security Forces to CRUSH THE UPRISING.

Now....why do you think it was ONLY EGYPT where such things did not occur?

In Iran...the Qud's Force and Republican Guard KILLED THOUSANDS and beat and tortured Tens of Thousands.

In Syria...well...that is still going on.

Several small scale uprisings were attempted in countries such as Yemen and Russian Controlled former Republics that have large Muslim Populations but most people don't even know about them as the people who tried...are all dead.

So...why did this work in Egypt?

Because the United States allowed it to happen.

AboveAlpha

 

The goal of the United States and U.S. Military is not to control Egypt...quite the opposite.

The GOAL is to have an Egypt that is self sufficient and is not a threat to other countries...as well not a staging area for terrorists.

If Egypt can develop itself into a strong and viable country...all the better.

But as of right now...even though most Egyptians don't know...the United States and specifically CENTCOM...is charged with watching over Egypt and it's new leaders to make certain such leadership does not head down the wrong path.

If it does...CENTCOM will task the Egyptian Military with removing the threat.

AboveAlpha

 

"the United States...is charged with watching over Egypt...?" And Russia is charged with watching over Syria? Who is charged with watching over Libya, Iran, etc, etc?
Should China be charged with watching over the USA to make sure that its leaders don't go down the wrong path?

 

Bullet points again

*Tunisia had successful "revolution" too so it is not only Egypt , Algeria is a republic so no reason to revolt and in Morocco the king gave up some rights as peaceful protesters were asking so no reason for a revolt there either.

*Syria and Libya are both part of the attempt to destroy secular Baathists , in Libya the islamists do not control the parliament as expected and in Syria Assad is winning despite the mercenary army and the provocations by the west.

*I doubt that Arabic Mediterranean countries share the same culture with Arabic peninsula ones , what happens in Bahrain / Qatar / Yemen and KSA is irrelevant . Keep in mind that Egyptians can base their nationalism in an era long before islam and this makes them quite a bit different from the rest of the countries .

*The goal of US is to keep countries subservient and under control , you simply do not have the means to make Egypt self sufficient , other countries probably can ....

*You are giving too much credit to the all mighty US intelligence , Hillary called Mubarak "a great friend and allie" like 2 weeks before he was kicked out of office ... so long for "allowing to happen" .

*Despite few Egyptian idiots i don't think that the vast majority of the locals are looking to start a war against Israel .

please use the edit button to add comments , i hate copy/pasting multiple posts .