All of amerikas problems trace back to Slavery

Could it that even the Founding Fathers couldn't see what the major process in history always was? Rulers vs slaves, since Babylon times, thousands of years the same process (rulers dominating over large groups of people, became their slaves), and still going on today. Most people don't have the knowledge on how this world (nature) operates, this is not teached in school/universities(?), not explained in the media, politics does not speak about it. Was clearly not teached to the Founding Fathers, because such subjects needs study, politicians do not study nature, this is the problem of politics, the most important things are left out. Because politics has to do with getting control by organisation over the population (by voting people can't influence the political system, because that is needed to end the organisation of the population (end the lining up, because that is what politics is really about, the political labels in voters minds show), people will have a voice (power), real influence on a, or their, country. And by that influence people can finally end the process which is going on for thousands of years (end domination, and everything bad that is coming from that)

 

That's basically the Marxist view of the historical dialectic between an overclass and an underclass dependent on certain economic reality. Where the Marxists went off the rails was to declare that for some reason capitalism was going to be the last time this happened and the proletariat were going to usher in an earthly paradise. That's a bit like saying that if you can track hurricanes you will soon be able to make them disappear and they'll never bother you again.

 

Actually, if you read the reliable history books the Civil War was not fought to rid the South of slavery. The Civil War was fought to prevent the southern states from seceding from the Union and to keep the United States together as one single nation.

 

yes I know that. I didn't say anything to conflict with your opinion.

 

Agreed.

I was not being critical. Most people actually believe the Civil War was fought to rid the South of slavery.

Do you recall the specific battle which cause Robert Lee to lose the war and forced the South to surrender its forces at Appomattox, Virginia? This defining battle occurred on July 3, 1863.

 

I think AmeriCa's main problem is that people are so uneducated that they can't spell it.

 

There is no race on God's green earth that when saddled with a welfare state that cripples innovation and confines men to the status of criminal sperm donors, while making them entirely dependent financially on uneducated females whose survival is largely conditioned upon their ability to spit out babies with sufficient frequency to keep the welfare checks at maximium, that will not become, in the fullness of time, will not become a largely criminal permanent under class. Almost all of whom are kept in that state by the all too human tendency to resent anyone with a chance to get out. It is a tendency we share with crabs..,

 

It guaranteed high tariffs to finance the degenerate lifestyle of the robber barons in the Gilded Age. The seizure of Southern assets was just an extension of greed and was expected to be over with quickly. The plutocrats' sons could buy their way out of having to fight, so the North's ruling class didn't stop after they found out that victory wouldn't be so easy.

 

Ugh, the ultimate blunder by Lee....

"Hey guys, lets walk in straight lines a couple hundred yards through cannon fire to attack a heavily entrenched enemy in a direct frontal attack, what could go wrong!"

 

No you are blaming Democrats for all this. It was Democrats that forced our founding fathers into compromises of the Constitution involving slaves. It was the machinations of Woodrow Wilson and his "Progressive" Democrats that introduced all the programs you indicated. In fact FDR was also a proponent of Eugenics.
Everyone seems to forget that Democrats fought tooth and nail against the Civil Rights advances of the 50's brought about by the Eisenhower administration.

 

No Free Lunch ...

Slaves were FREE labor, if you don't think having a significant portion of the population working for FREE for a century didn't have a positive economic impact on all those people who weren't slaves, then you need to think things out a bit more.

 

Try 4 centuries.

 

Correct!

Gettysburg - Pickett's Charge, July 3, 1863 - 2:00 - 2:30PM

On this day in 1863, troops under Confederate General George Pickett begin a massive attack against the center of the Union lines on the climactic third day of the Battle of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, the largest engagement of the war. For the first two days of the battle, General Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia had battered George Meade's Army of the Potomac. The day before Pickett's Charge, the Confederates had hammered each flank of the Union line but could not break through.

Now, on July 3, Lee decided to attack the Union center, stationed on Cemetery Ridge, after making another unsuccessful attempt on the Union right flank at Culp's Hill in the morning. The majority of the force consisted of Pickett's division, but there were other units represented among the 15,000 attackers.

After a long Confederate artillery bombardment, the Rebel force moved through the open field and up the slight rise of Cemetery Ridge. But by the time they reached the Union line, the attack had been broken into many small units, and they were unable to penetrate the Yankee center.

The failed attack effectively ended the battle of Gettysburg. On July 4, Lee began to withdraw his forces to Virginia. The casualties for both armies were staggering. Lee lost 28,000 of his 75,000 soldiers, and Union losses stood at over 22,000. It was the last time Lee threatened Northern territory.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/pickett-leads-his-infamous-charge-at-Gettysburg

Here is a great map of this decisive battle.

http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/gettysburg/maps/pickettscharge.html

 

Oh, Come on we've elected Barack Hussein Obama II. He is our post racial president who will lead us out of this.

 

Correct. It was about 4 centuries overall.

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Was that humor, or are are you being serious (in some way)?

 

Gee, no one like satire anymore.

 

yeah iknow, it states such in the bible.

 

You are indeed correct, Wehrwolfen.

Many people today would like for us to forget the Republicans actually passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The truth of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

The original House version:[9]
• Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
• Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:[9]
• Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
• Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[9]
• Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
• Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)

Even though the Democrats had the majority, a higher percentage of Republicans voted in favor of the civil rights act than did Democrats. It was the Senate Version that ended up law. 80% of Republicans vs. 63% of Democrats voted for the bill, and the Democrats had the majority. More Democrats voted against it than did Republicans. Not just as a number, but also as a percentage!

While we are dredging up the past, let's remember when it comes to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, more Democrats voted against it than did Republicans. Not just as a number, but also as a percentage! There have been many mistakes made in the past by the majority of members of both political parties.

 

Why hasn't anyone here checked the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

England originally used "felons" colonize both America and Australia. When it became unprofitable shipping felons into bondage to America, they turned to the African slave traders (Muslims).

 

The 1960 Civil Rights Act​

The 1960 Civil Rights Act was born towards the end of 1958. Following the 1957 Civil Rights Act, Eisenhower introduced another civil rights bill in late 1958, which was his reaction to a violent outbreak of bombings against churches and schools in the South. Though Eisenhower is not automatically linked to the civil rights issue, his contribution, including the 1957 Act, is important as it pushed the whole civil rights issue into the White House.

Once again, politicians from the South were furious over what they saw as Federal interference in state affairs. The bill became an act in 1960 as both parties were fighting for the ‘Black Vote’.

The 1960 Civil Rights Act introduced penalties to be levied against anybody who obstructed someone’s attempt to register to vote or someone’s attempt to actually vote. A Civil Rights Commission was created.


Read more:
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/1960_civil_rights_act.htm

Democrats fought with everything they had to stop this revision of the 1957 Civil Rights Bill.

 

Today's "Republican Party" is a "Dixiecrat" influenced shell of its former self; it is overpopulated by RACISTS that would no more pass the CRA today than Universal Healthcare.

Your distorted view of what has gone down doesn't fool anyone.

 

and the dem party is overpopulated with racists such as the UL, NAACP and their branch outfits the NOI and NBPP

 

If you see the racism, then oppose it. That's all I will say about that.

 

More or less, yeah that makes sense perhaps for the working class, but if you want to know why minorities are often poorer, the reason, simple racism. Afterall, Ford hired blacks, but that didn't mean they were allowed to have equal rights, or that every one else hired blacks as well.

 

Slave labor may be cheap labor but it is not free labor as it is incumbent upon the masater to feed cloth and house his slaves. Once Cyrus McCormac came up with the tractor the days of slavery in the west would have ended regardless of the Civil war.