Congress may vote ‘No’ on Syria attack

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  1. SyrianGirl1982

    SyrianGirl1982 New Member

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    Watch the video again. And then come back to me. Where are the dead bodies in video? Protesters were 10 meters from him and he was shooting them. You telling me Maher cannot hit one protester? He was shooting rubber bullets at those morons.

    Then there were soldiers behind him who were throwing rocks at protesters. OH MY GOD what a terrible regime, shooting rubber bullets and throwing rocks! LOL hahahaha


    [video=youtube;RIefHVixoOI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIefHVixoOI[/video]
     
  2. allegoricalfact

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    No he most certainly didn't .......You are repeating a Lie, why why are you doing that ?.Why do you want to murder innocent people who have nothing to do with you? Have never harmed a hair on your head why do you wish them such harm?
     
  3. AboveAlpha

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    That is not Maher's only video where he is shooting people.

    There is a 27 page Amnesty International Report that details out the Murders and Atrocities Maher has committed.

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  4. allegoricalfact

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    No he did not ............................. I know someone who was there at that time in those demos ...........There was no gun fire ..............only by strangers who fired at walls, not people walls. That is all we were shown walls riddled with bullets.
     
  5. SyrianGirl1982

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    Not in the city where I lived. My own cousin was in the Army and witnessed everything. I saw the army coming into town, to protect govt buildings and schools. I was terrified and was happy to see them..........

    There was no pro-democracy rallies, the protesters were not secular or tolerant. They were the most religious extremist part of society. Of course they will claim to want "democracy and freedom". Thats for a western audience to see. They want "democracy and freedom" so they can establish an Islamic state under muslim brotherhood, just like in Egypt.
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    Come On Allie!!!

    Can you HONESTLY say to me that you believe ASSAD has grabbed power in Syria and become Dictator for Life because he said a few sweet words to obtain such power?

    He is a murderer.

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  7. SyrianGirl1982

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    Whats your point?

    There are also 100s of pages of Amnesty International reports which describe atrocities and crimes by Americans in Iraq and Afghan.

    Two can play this game!
     
  8. Face. Your

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    You living there somehow changes the 1973 Constitution which states and I quote:

    From the Syrian Constitution of 1973:

    “The religion of the President of the Republic has to be Islam. Islamic jurisprudence is a main source of legislation.”


    And from the Amended 2012 Constitution of Syria:

    "The religion of the President of the Republic is Islam; Islamic jurisprudence shall be a major source of legislation;...”


    I guess that is why only a Muslim can be the President, and why the giving of traditional Assyrian/Akkadian names and Aramaic/Syriac versions of Biblical names was banned, I guess that is why Assyrian schools, political parties, churches and literature were repressed, and why the largest Assyrian political organization the Assyrian Democratic Organization is banned.

    Good for them, it still doesn't make Syria any less of an Alawite tyranny of the minority.

    I'm am one of the staunchest opponents of Islam and Islamism on this forum, and I don't have a master you see I live in a liberal democracy and have what is known as "freedom" an alien concept to a Syrian living under the yolk of Baathist totalitarianism I'm sure, however, it is that very same freedom which you are now enjoying safe under the protection of the Pax Americana (in NYC IIRC) to spread your pro-tyranny propaganda. Here's a thought, why don't you go back home and defend your beloved Baathist tyrants at the front with the same vigor that you do safe from behind your keyboard?
     
  9. SyrianGirl1982

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    If Assad is a murderer then so is Bush, Obama, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter, Kennedy, Johnson.

    All are responsible for thousands of civilian deaths.
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    My point is you are trying to make Assad and his Brother ans Family look like some Defender's of Syria when in actuality all of them will leave Syria like Rat's leaving a Sinking Ship the moment U.S. Forces attack.

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  11. SyrianGirl1982

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    All men in the family are deployed in Syrian Army. Cousin been fighting from day 1. Others volunteered for secular Syria in 2012 and 2013.

    I would love to go back, but my apartment got taken over and destroyed by your beloved freedom fighters. The one that I was saving for a decade to afford and buy new furniture and appliyances. My family is already staying with relatives in areas under army control. They share their last bread and resources with Christian and Alawite neighbors. And by the way my family are all Sunni.
     
  12. allegoricalfact

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    I said he did not fire on the demonstrators in Damascus ................the History of Syria, old nor modern, is not what your country is about to bomb that Ancient City for is it? PaPa Obomba is going to punish Syria for her History ?
     
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    You tell us more about secular states of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar etc...etc...Christians in Syria were protected well by the government. Many Iraqi Christians had to run away to Syria because the USA let them be slaughtered by Sunni extremists. Stop helping Christians in the Middle East. Stop spreading your fake democracy and freedom.
    Neither USA nor Israel give monkeys about millions of Christians stuck between the Devil and the deep blue sea. As far as US interest is concerned, they would probably let all of them be slaughtered by medieval savages represented by Takfiris/Wahabis and other human excrement. For Israelis, everyone is goy. Whether Christians or Muslims are dying, they do not care. I'm certain some of them are quite happy with the outcome. The more people die, the merrier.
     
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    How many times do I have to remind you I DID NOT ADVOCATE A U.S. MILITARY STRIKE UPON SYRIA?????

    All I am now saying is....I was supposed to be sent to the region days ago and I was told to stand down.

    Because of this I KNOW....a U.S. Military Strike is coming. It is INEVITABLE.

    Assad WILL BE REMOVED.

    That has absolutely NOTHING to do with ME!

    At this point Syrian's should be preparing for a Post Assad Syria.

    AboveAlpha

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    Don't return until after the Military Strike and AFTER Assad is removed or leaves Syria.

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. SyrianGirl1982

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    Listen, I do not care about Assad so much. I care about Secular Syria. Assad did not oppress me in any way, and he was staunch for Secular Syria. I like his views, he is a good leader, but I am not going crazy about him. He gives Syria the best chance to survive and for that I support him. It does not matter to me if it's Assad or no Assad , as long as Syria remains just the way it was. It was perfect for me.

    But he will not leave Syria.

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    No strike is coming. You heard it first here.
     
  16. Face. Your

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    Hmmm, who am I going to believe? Anecdotal "evidence" from Allegoricalfact, who believes that the Lee Rigby murder was staged, that the holocaust of the Jews is a hoax, that the allies should have joined WW2 on the side of the Third Reich, and who "quite likes Hitler" who according to her was a peacemaker and "on many levels a kind man", or Human Rights Watch?

    (Cairo) - Syria should cease use of live fire and other excessive force against protesters, as it did on March 18 and 20, 2011, in the southern town of Daraa, leaving at least five people dead, Human Rights Watch said today.

    Sunday, March 20 marked the third day of protests in Daraa, where government forces yet again fired on protesters and used teargas to break up a public gathering, killing one person and injuring dozens of others, according to media reports. Today's fatality brings the total number of protesters killed in Daraa to at least five.

    "The Syrian government has shown no qualms about shooting dead its own citizens for speaking out," said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch. "Syrians have shown incredible courage in daring to protest publicly against one of the most repressive governments in the region, and they shouldn't have to pay with their lives."

    Security forces used teargas and fired on protesters who gathered in the town. An eyewitness speaking on a BBC Arabic television broadcast claimed they used teargas in far greater quantities on Sunday than during Friday's protests. Today's protests also reportedly turned violent with the BBC reporting that some protesters in Daraa set fire to several buildings including the headquarters of the ruling Baath Party.

    This is not the first time that Syrian forces have used lethal force to break up a demonstration. On March 21, 2010, security forces fired at a group of Kurds celebrating Nowruz (Kurdish New Year) in Northern Syria, killing one person and wounding others. Two years previously, in March 2008, Syrian internal security forces had also opened fire on Kurds celebrating Nowruz in the town of Qamishli in northeastern Syria, killing three and wounding five others.


    http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/03/21/syria-government-crackdown-leads-protester-deaths

    Yep going to have to go with HRW, on this one, anyone else with me?
     
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    You misquoted me twice at least ......................
     
  18. Face. Your

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    The same Sunni extremists that the Baath let Syria use to launch operations against the coalition forces during OIC who after their all but total defeat in Iraq have turned their sites on their former hosts, al-Nusra is a minority faction in the opposition BTW, the FSA led by the Syrian Government in exile; the Syrian National Council is secular and pro-Democracy.

    Abject nonsense, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that has a Christian net population growth, in the main they are more educated and successful than their Arab and Jewish neighbors. But that is an interesting bit of classical anti-Semitic blood libel canard you just posted.
     
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    Don't kid yourself.

    Assad only cares about Assad....his track record and history prove that.

    I understand that you fear being a Woman living in a Post Assad Syria that could be controlled by Sunni Extremists who might wish to enforce Sharia Law....but this does not have to be the case.

    The United States would be more than happy to help set up a fair and secular Syrian Constitution that gives Equal Rights to all.

    Have you ever considered the benefits of a U.S./Syrian Alliance?

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    Don't forget the fact that we may not have dropped nuclear bombs on Japan either.

    Heck, nukes may not even exist.

    The fact that HRW has been criticized by the ADL because they "pay little attention to anti-Semitism." really ought to be enough for many of the expected posters here to be on the HRW bandwagon.
     
  21. Face. Your

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    Nope provided the link and everything:

    And actually since I have banished and cleared many of the prejudices which were ingrained in me since childhood. I have got to quite like Hitler he was quite amusing and on many levels a kind man. Not saying I liked all of his ways I don't but he was good for Germany in the 30s and he did love his country and they it seems loved him.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=318418&page=19&p=1063019716#post1063019716

    On the Lee Rigby Killing:

    I have looked at more footage now and well, I will eat my all hats if that was real, it was staged. Even the Police of that area were told it didn't happen. The few Police in the movie were not local if indeed they were Police at all. It didn't happen. .


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=304074&page=47&p=1062664898#post1062664898

    On Hitler the peacemaker:

    "That part of Poland which was sometimes Germany? We do not know what would have happened if France and Britain had not declared War. What ever we may feel about The Third Reich, Hitler did not want War he had been reaching out for peace between us all. Yes there are other factors in this and one was that he was fighting The Soviet Union."

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showt...3018012&highlight=peace+hitler#post1063018012

    Lol all the documentary evidence that we have shows that Hitler was looking for peace in Europe between nations and that his aim was to bring borders back as was.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=318418&page=17&p=1063018877#post1063018877

    And just two of many regarding holocaust denial:

    I am satisfied that there was no Holocaust and have posted lots of none evidence for that is what there is NO EVIDENCE of such a thing happening.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=318418&page=35&p=1063028740#post1063028740


    Nothing, you have nothing. You have no proof that a thing which did not happen happened .........blaa blaa blaaa is nothing. It did not happen and so there is no bloody proof, course there isn't It DID NOT HAPPEN.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=318418&page=24&p=1063021143#post1063021143

    On siding with the Nazi's:

    We should have let Germany fight Russia in WWII, kept out of it fought along side Germany.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=318418&page=14&p=1063017836#post1063017836
     
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    The idea that the FSA is lead by secular and pro-democracy forces is just another delusion. That is a million miles away from the reality on the ground in Syria. Whatever areas are controlled by the so called rebels there is no secular force to speak of.

    Secondly, that was a cheap accusation. A lame attempt to label me as an Anti-Semite. You should be ashamed of yourself. Anyway my assertion has nothing to do with the anti-Semitism. It is well known fact that Jews call all other people goys. It would be great if you could back up your statement with any source. I can tell you that Hezbollah is actually protecting Christians in the Levant.

    In Hezbollah stronghold, Lebanese Christians find respect, stability.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...ld-Lebanese-Christians-find-respect-stability
     
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    LOL!!!!

    I mean...LOL!!!!

    So...some Terrorist take a little Virgin Mary statuette and places it on a mantle along with a variety of Islamic decorations and brings in the media and cameras and YOU ACTUALLY BUY THIS!!!!???? LOL!!!!

    How would you like to buy some swamp land in Florida?

    AboveAlpha
     
  25. Libertas_Mors

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    Why would she? Look at that has benefitted Iraq......Christians and other minorities are persecuted worse than under the last 5 years of Saddam. That's what we have to offer Syria through military intervention...
     

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