Interpol and the NRA's VP LaPierre agree

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  1. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This site seems to favor gun nuts, so I doubt your personal attack will get removed.

    I'll just say this: a coward hides behind his gun.

    I don't carry my guns around for 'protection' because I'm not a coward.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    moving the goal post?..your claim was that gun nutters who have guns............. are cowards
    you still don't have the Right to own, you merely have the permission to hold the government's guns in your house
     
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    How is it that you suppose you being armed with a safely concealed weapon puts others at risk? Are you concerned your weapon is going to jump out of it's holster and start shooting people on it's own? Are you concerned it's going to spontaneously explode? Or do you not trust yourself, and think that you might at some point, realizing that you have a weapon on hand, start using it on others for no justifiable purpose?

    A properly stored weapon poses no risk to others unless the person in possession of it is an inherent risk, with or without a weapon.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what the hell you're talking about or why you're so obsessed with my guns.

    I did not contradict myself or move goalposts or whatever else your accusing me of this time.

    Chances of being shot with a firearm when no firearms are in your vicinity: =0
    Chances of being shot with a firearm when firearms are in your vicinity: >0
     
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    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    Your chances of being shot by MY firearm, no matter how close to my vicinity you are, are precisely 0, unless you yourself are actively presenting a threat of death or grave physical injury to myself or someone else. Were we to meet, say at a bus stop, and strike up a conversation about the weather or the stock market, whether or not I'm armed, you are in no danger. My gun is not going to take it upon itself to shoot you.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what my chances are of anyone shooting me. I keep hearing all kinds of stories of all kinds of people shooting each other. It's an epidemic. Even the former Vice President accidentally shot somebody. I just don't like being around other people with guns unless I'm at the range... and I'm willing to give that up if necessary.
     
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    Actually, it's not. The murder rate has been falling for 30 years, and is not at, or very close to, an all time low in the history of the country.

    “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” -B. Franklin
     
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    maybe because you show such an intense interest in my guns
    so why the beef if you posses a government owned firearm? Your chances of being shot just went up, too, based on your claim
     
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    This site seems to favor free speech so I doubt your personal attacks will get removed.

    I'll just say this: a coward hides behind his free speech when they have nothing at stake.

    No you carry around you mouth for protection cause you are so sure it will be effective....meanwhile hundreds of thousands have used weapons to defend their own lives, the lives of their families, the lives of strangers, and the lives of fellow countrymen. Thank god your opinions hold so little sway, Go in peace :roll:
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    hhahahahahahah that was no accident.........
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    your gun isn't a right and your government will prove eventually. Hard to tell the masters no..............tough break lil' feller
    Your argument against us having guns looses force when you claim to own and that you are safe. All your statistical evidence is now in your lap. Your family has a really good chance of being shot by your gun.
    Well, bubba, you're only as safe as the ret of the gun owners now. Welcome to the club.
    I'm safe with a gun. Maybe safer because I don't have a problem using it against another if forced. I have before and will again, if under the same circumstances
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Riiiight. Every gun advocate has a story of how they were saved by their gun. I don't believe any of them.
     
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    of course not...............
    you still fail to acknowledge that you are now a gun owner and all these stats you've been pushing on us applies to you as well............according to the stats, you've placed your family in terrible danger
     
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    I know that a determined force is only stopped by a prepared countering force. If you were a gun-totin' terrorist/criminal searching for a soft target/victim would you choose a place where citizens would be a totin' too?

    People that take precautions do so to avoid an untoward circumstance or failing that, be prepared for it.
     
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    In Orlando a few years ago, there was a slew of home invasions happening. The group of people doing it raped women, and murdered people. One day, they decided to hit my friends house. He pulled a rifle on them, and they skedaddled. No shots were fired, and a few days later the gang was arrested.

    Whether you believe it or not, my friend remains alive and his wife unraped because he had a gun handy. As I love both of them very much, I am very happy about that.
     
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    Wouldn't it be nice if that kind of story mattered to the anti-gunners, but it doesn't. It doesn't really matter if arming citizens makes a difference, like Interpol and the NRA agree upon. What matters to them....well them. I for one am glad your friend is OK and I am glad for an armed citizenry.
     
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    Apparently, somewhere down the line, somebody decided to finally use a phone instead of the gun, and the alleged rapist/murderers/monsters/bogey men were arrested.

    Well, we can add the verb "unraped" to the pro-gunner toolbox. Your unraped, unmurdered friend was saved by a heroic gun. Give that damned gun a cigar!

    Every gun advocate has an anecdotal story. The great thing about anecdotes is that you never lose an argument.

    I've heard them all: hostage-taking, daily rapes (on this very site), getting shot at every day, gang rapes, and of course break-ins.

    Somehow break-ins into a single woman's house are always attempted rapes. I wish I had the same psychic powers as the alleged victims who somehow know that they were going to be raped.

    The USA is not a war zone. Where there is smoke there is fire, and people who tend to get shot at and raped on a regular basis might want to either consider moving or stop operating their meth lab.
     
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    No, give my friend a cigar, for being prepared and trained. A firearm is like a fire extinguisher. Tools that you hope you never need to use, but are really glad to have if you do.
     
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    produce two posts....................
     
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    DixNickson Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is your issue with rape and gun shot victims? Is it your belief that these victims are deserving of their fate at the hands of tyrants? An insulated life is bliss huh Pardy but why the insensitivity for crime victims?
     
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    Why do you exploit rape and gun victims to promote an anti-government agenda?
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    if that were true, then you must admit that using a picture of a ten year old, paint a hoodie on his pic and call him innocent isn't much different.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe, but for every person trying to portray Martin as a saint, there was at least another person trying to portray Zimmerman as a saint.

    I don't believe that the average American is subject to rape and murder every day. If that were true, I wouldn't be arguing for gun control, I'd be arguing for martial law.
     
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    so Australian so prediciable....well, I can say that the only thing that matters is the Zimmerman's jury, and not some third party interloper readying the hangman's noose , found him INNOCENT regardless of how much pandering to the libs that occurred. I don't recall that anyone painted Z as a saint, only you did just now,,,thanks for verifying his innocence
    To quote you "a gun in the house is dangerous to your family" so much for your two-faced arguments
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're obsessed with me and my personal life.

    Your entire post is an angry, immature personal attack. Twisting my words doesn't help with your credibility.

    The funny things that I wasn't even disagreeing with you: I think that Martin and Zimmerman were both punks.
     
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    anger???????// naw, more like pity.................cuz that's the best ya got...............gun owners baaaaaaaaah dangerous and evil...... a clear danger to society and community
     

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