Theistic Evolutionary Theory and The Divine Feminine/God The Mother??!!

True for the whales, but elephants do not sing.

We know elephants are supposedly very intelligent creatures.
We can assume that the Unconscious mind found in ourselves is has also evolved in other animals, probably to a degree not much different that in ourselves, but certainly, skewed towards the elephant life experience.


It is becoming evermore apparent through research that our own Unconscious mind "talks" to those inside the mind of other people.
I speculate that there is a while REALM, a kingdom for these virtual "gods" inside us, all closely related and quite similar to one another, perhaps even just separate parts of the whole, one Collective Unconscious entity that is the Third Eye of Providence watching over our individual and pitiful separate little life experiences.
That Collective sees our individual short span on earth as the way it, itself, gathers more information about the environment to which it, as the essence of our Species, must constantly Adapt so as not to become extinct.


With that idea I reason that the subtle unnoticed communication between the Unconscious minds of others and our own, may even be taking place on a grand scale, through Telepathy.
The mechanism of that Telepathy would be the weak but world-wide flowing of electromagnetic energy emanating from our Brain which we have detected.

 

give the memory its due.

Elephants do very little by chance

 

And that Nova documentary on a border collie being able to remember 1000 very different dolls was astonishing!


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/nature/how-smart-dogs.html

 

On the other hand.....there is an ancient tradition in several cultures that when Adam and Eve were created.........the cherub Lucifer was asked to bow to them and he refused......Michael and his angels obeyed...........and the war was on........

 

May they be true, may they be not true, all these " fantastic " theories and thoughts are born out of men whose knowledge and experience is immensely greater than the average keyboard skeptic, but still, they like to make fun of them, because they feel good to believe all things out of the unquestioned " real " science ( whatever their " real " science may be, since almost everything constantly changes and older theories are eventually dismantled over time ), exactly as a medieval inquisitor felt good to ridiculise and destroy every theory outside the teachings of his religion.

Personally, i like a lot all those attempts to give an olistic explanation of all, aka, a theory of the all which is inspired by ancient religion thoughts, it's really fascinating and they will give inspiration to other scientists, which is supremely important to science, to have an inspiring force outside all precepts imposed by regular science.

 

But maybe we are all that??????!!!!

Maybe two beings composed of fundamental energy consider that our playing the role of a mere human being for a few years is the best way to teach lessons that they may have taken millions of years.....or even billions of years to figure out without the benefit of having been merely human???????!!!!!!

 

Humnnnn.... ever hear the old theory that there are only two emotions in the universe.... LOVE and FEAR!!!???? I wonder if G-d the Mother/The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit/Ruach ha Kodesh.... was ever kind of scared of The Ancient of Days G-d the FAther who Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua stated clearly was doing all the miracles and was greater than him!!!!!!?????

 

Wait until you see how all this can fit into the campaign to get Mr. Jimothy Mason elected to represent the REpublican Party in some major way in the 2016 campaign.... and you will not be laughing then!!!!!!!?????

 

Exactly.... by the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt... it has been estimated that there may have been as many as 400,000 Messianic Jews living in Judaea.... Rabbi Akiva taught Simon Bar Kochba that as soon as the Romans were defeated these non-Jews.... would have to be expelled from the land........ There were a number of reasons as to why the Messianic Jews did not join in the revolt... and the fanaticism of Rabbi Akiva was one of them!!!!

 

Lol first of all, why god should have a gender if it's perfect and omnipotent by definition? Why should it even have a phisical body and have a female mind? Feminist trollsh*it of the worst kind lol...

 

Perhaps I am wrong... but the answer to this question ties in with what fundamental energy probably looked like......... previous to the last hundred or so Big Bang events......... fundamental energy in its raw form might just be so scary that any type of form....any step toward more and more complexity...... is a step upward????!!!!!


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=342919

In the Beginning... was Super Strings and Super Waves/ Super Energetic Matter!
I have came to believe that the G-d of Abraham/YHWH/ Allah.... in a sense evolved or learned and got better and better and better at creating...... over infinite time in the past..... Fundamental energy operates at some TRILLIONS the level of energy attainable in a particle accelerator... and since it can neither be created nor destroyed.... fundamental energy must have been moving which implies... that Teilhard's Law of Complexity Consciousness would go into action?????!!!!!!!

Here is a visionary account of somebody who may have perhaps viewed Super Strings (as worms) and Super Waves/ Super Energetic Matter... as a lake of fire??????!!!!!!

Due to his religious beliefs what he saw scared the daylights out of him and he has been out preaching ever since... but.... his visionary experience may give us an idea of what fundamental energy might perhaps look like????!!!!

 

Personally i'm more inclined toward the " energy that permeates all " definition of god rather than " intelligent abstract personality "... pheraps, with a little stretch of the mind, they can be seen as the very same thing. Since the universe constantly reacts to itself and changes shape, even evolving in living beings, i think it can be effectively seen as a " god ", because it has the power of creation, is omnipresent and never dies, only changes shape.

 

This is pretty much EXACTLY where I am at also in how I view what has been happening.

My apologies if I sent you this link previously but what near death experiencer Mellen Benedict was shown in relation to their having been an essentially infinite number of Big Bang events over basically eternity in the past..... sounds so similar to the chapter The Anthropic Principle in "Stephen Hawking's Universe" that I personally think that a vehement disagreement with either version....... could be inspired our own fear of the ultimate truth!!!!????

Both dogmatic atheists as well as deeply religious people hooked on specific dogma...... can be filled with fear.......over the prospect of expanding their view of the universe!!!!!!!!??


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

 

With all due respect and in a friendly way I'd be damned surprised if you truly understood Stephen Hawking's theories, or Einstein's or any real nuclear physics in anything but the most rudimentary way. The reason I say this is the fact that the vast majority of those theories are completely counterintuitive. They really can't be actually explained or understood in the way most things are but only in the language of really, really higher mathematics, and I've not seen a single equation here yet. That isn't a terrible fault, most of Hawking's more popular stuff, as well as a whole boatload of layman's explanations for modern physics eschew math mainly, but the thing you have to understand is that doing that is VERY likely to lead to misunderstanding. Totally prosaic things can very quickly begin to seem godlike.

I remember reading one guy on the various deep and philosophical "implications" of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, who said "Look, all it really means is that you can't tell where another car is, or how fast it's going, if the only way you have to find out is to throw another car at it". ( I've also read that is a totally bad analogy by another physicist).

In any case we should note some things before we all fly off to commune with the God-Mother.

Near death experiences, according to most scientists, but certainly not all, are dreams. The dreams we remember (any dreams) are not the dreams we really have, which, AFAWK, are totally incoherent replays of our more recent experiences which we reconstruct immediately upon awakening, fitting them into our other memories so they make sense. We know things we could not have known in them because of memories we have forgotten we had, coincidences, or inferences, possibly from those same forgotten memories.

The theory of a god-mother comes mainly from a book written by Rianne Eisler called The Chalice and the Blade in the 60's. It has it's adherents but most anthropologists regard it as about two steps away from von Daniken. Neopaganism is a strange amalgam of known mythology, several late 19th and early 20th century writers such as Madame Blavatsky and Aleister Crowley all thrown together with a lot of The Witch Cult of Western Europe written by Alice Murray in 1921. That book, again, has some adherents but not a whole lot.

Both books have the same problem. They're written well and have some actual, verifiable evidence, but not enough especially not for the breadth and scope of theory they're going for and doubly so when other, simpler explanations exist.

I haven't yet seen mention here (or maybe I missed it) of Quantum Consciousness by Stuart Hameroff. It's sort of the same thing so it's possible you might find that interesting

 

With all due respect and in a friendly way I'd be damned surprised if you truly understood Stephen Hawking's theories, or Einstein's or any real nuclear physics in anything but the most rudimentary way. The reason I say this is the fact that the vast majority of those theories are completely counterintuitive. They really can't be actually explained or understood in the way most things are but only in the language of really, really higher mathematics, and I've not seen a single equation here yet. That isn't a terrible fault, most of Hawking's more popular stuff, as well as a whole boatload of layman's explanations for modern physics eschew math mainly, but the thing you have to understand is that doing that is VERY likely to lead to misunderstanding. Totally prosaic things can very quickly begin to seem godlike.

I remember reading one guy on the various deep and philosophical "implications" of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, who said "Look, all it really means is that you can't tell where another car is, or how fast it's going, if the only way you have to find out is to throw another car at it". ( I've also read that is a totally bad analogy by another physicist).

In any case we should note some things before we all fly off to commune with the God-Mother.

Near death experiences, according to most scientists, but certainly not all, are dreams. The dreams we remember (any dreams) are not the dreams we really have, which, AFAWK, are totally incoherent replays of our more recent experiences which we reconstruct immediately upon awakening, fitting them into our other memories so they make sense. We know things we could not have known in them because of memories we have forgotten we had, coincidences, or inferences, possibly from those same forgotten memories.

The theory of a god-mother comes mainly from a book written by Rianne Eisler called The Chalice and the Blade in the 60's. It has it's adherents but most anthropologists regard it as about two steps away from von Daniken. Neopaganism is a strange amalgam of known mythology, several late 19th and early 20th century writers such as Madame Blavatsky and Aleister Crowley all thrown together with a lot of The Witch Cult of Western Europe written by Alice Murray in 1921. That book, again, has some adherents but not a whole lot.

Both books have the same problem. They're written well and have some actual, verifiable evidence, but not enough especially not for the breadth and scope of theory they're going for and doubly so when other, simpler explanations exist.

I haven't yet seen mention here (or maybe I missed it) of Quantum Consciousness by Stuart Hameroff. It's sort of the same thing so it's possible you might find that interesting

 

Nobody really understands those theories. Like Lenny Susskind said, we aren't wired to understand the universe, we're wired to live in caves. We understand these things in the universe by abstract mathematics. There is no other way to understand them. Even then, with all of physics, we rarely understand the "why", only the "how".

The "how" is physics and science and higher abstract mathematics.

The "why" leaves a lot of room. As a simple example I can take Newtonian physics, F=ma (hey, an equation!). Cool, Newton was amazing, F=ma is how it works no doubt (classically). F=ma, why isn't that F=ma^2, or F=ma^(1/2), or F=ma^(3.1459). Sure Newton was observational, F=ma is "how" it works, but that doesn't answer "why" it works that way. Physics and science don't answer the "why", they just explain the "how". It's very mechanical, not very philosophical.

The Anthropic Principle (WAP specifically) explains it all away with a bit of dubious sophistry: "it is that way because that's the way it is and if it wasn't that way we wouldn't be here". Isn't it funny that science doesn't explain the why, but the WAP was "invented" to dismiss the "why" question entirely. I don't buy into that, it gets us nowhere other than to dismiss people who ask "why", and dismissing the "why" question isn't science at all. Asking "why" is fundamental to understanding. I dismiss adherents to the WAP as boring, mundane, and not worth my time.

How do you explain "love" in science? A bunch of chemicals in our brain? How about sacrifice, honor, deceit, suicide, abstract mathematics, language...religion? It amazes me that our brain seems to be the most complex thing in the universe, but then a lot of things on Earth amaze me. Give me a mathematical formula for a tree. The complexity of our world amazes me, and I understand the real complexity more than a lot of people. We understand way more than our ancestors, and still we barely understand anything. Another question for science, why are we compelled to understand?

Humankind has been plagued throughout history with the notion that we understand much more than we really do, yet there are those who are willing to squawk from some mighty perch that such and such cannot exist. If I say something definitely exists, then I have to prove it. If I say something may exist and that existence explains such and such physical phenomena (dark matter is an example), then the door is open for me to prove that it exists or for you to prove that it doesn't exist. If you say something definitely doesn't exist, then you have to prove that it doesn't exist, which is much harder than proving existence, but you made the claim.

Let's all remember that Newton was wrong, Einstein was wrong, and Hawking was wrong. Planck made a mistake but got it right anyway. You can look up what they were wrong about, but science is a human invention and subject to human mistakes. Until those mistakes are eliminated, all options about the nature of the universe should be considered, including the existence of "god" (whatever that is). Closing the mind to any possibility is the only real mistake.

 

Like Stephen Hawking Ph. D. I get the impression that Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman is attempting to make theoretical physics more understandable to lay persons like myself.

I get the impression that he is onto something serious with his idea that theoretical physics may help us to cure cancer???!!!

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/cancer/cancer1.htm

Personally..... I think that this is somehow related to the Dr. Masaru Emoto research????!!!!
http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/water-crystal.html

 

Extremely well said 10A!

I personally am even open to the idea that sentience in some form is shared with far more life forms than we tend to imagine!!!???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Plants

 

... and if they are asking for help..... it might just be coming?????!!!!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338698

Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????
I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Near death experiencer Mellen Benedict..... was shown that there actually has been an essentially infinite number of Big Bang events over eternity in the past.........
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

...... There certainly could be a connection to sex???!!!!


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers21.html
The Trigger of Orgasms: Margaret Birkin's Near-Death Experience

 

Unless..... the difficulties that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. is having to fit GRAVITY in with a Theory of Everything will eventually be proven to be because there are actually TWO rather than merely one truly fundamental forms of energy?????!!!!

My guess would be Super Strings plus Super Waves/ or as Dr. Chaim TEjman terms it... Super Energetic Matter????!!!!

 

http://aetherforce.com/the-defiance-of-nikola-tesla/

I believe it is Dr. Steven Greer who theorizes that the truth about UFO's must be suppressed......... because if 40% or more of humanity had access to the truth on this topic.......... we would never remain convinced that an internal combustion engine is just about the best form of machine available????!!!!!

 

Sorry, I don't buy the NDE crowd's schtick.
I think there is a physiological explanation for their "visions".

 

Your skepticism is understandable..... I personally went through five years of studying these accounts in which I wondered if the "being of light" who reviewed peoples lives with them might perhaps be Satan/The Devil???????!!!!!

At this time I am 99% certain that the Being of Light is none other than the Word/Logos the member of the Elohim... who formed Adam and Eve and breathed life into them????!!!!

I conducted a poll on NDE's several years ago that is highly revealing. Many Christians fear these NDE accounts partly because the salaries and benefits paid out to pastors and priests would be threatened....if.......NDE's were widely accepted in the Christian community???????!!!!!


http://www.christianforums.com/t7647330/

Former atheist Howard Storm asks about holocaust during his NDE?!
I personally am wide open to the possibility that what former atheist Howard Storm was shown regarding the background events surrounding the holocaust fit perfectly with II Corinthians 12:2-4:

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For the record....... I believe that pastors are deeply troubled by the type of thing that was told to Howard Storm about the holocaust....... because they cannot imagine a Messiah Jesus/ Yeshua big enough to forgive and take Jews into heaven who had not professed faith in Rabbi Jesus/ Yeshua as Messiah.....in front of several hundred witnesses?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And I view the commonality of these "visions/perceptions" to the brain misfiring in the early stages of oxygen starvation. Physiologically, our bodies pretty much all react to various stimuli or lack thereof in the same fashion.

I believe that attributing these NDE visions to some mystical, supernatural agent is born out of precisely the same ignorance that caused humans to attribute all manner of natural phenomena to direct acts of god(s).