Do you despise public school teachers?

It works so well doesn't it.

 

you should probably consider posting on a video game forum instead if you're going to make all your topics satirical

 

No, just union monopoly of the public schools system. No point trying reform until they are gone. They insist on more money for failure and protections for teachers watching hardcore porn while in class.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/01/22/teacher-fired-watching-porn-school-gets-job-back-thanks-union

They also fight for child molestors:

http://eagnews.org/parents-are-stun...rance-for-the-teacher-who-molested-their-son/

Which is why the left loves them. They also use mafia style strong arm tactics.

 

Public funding would do that without the need for monopoly. Vouchers for example. As a patriot I can assume you don't like groups like the teachers unions holding kids hostage for more cash huh? Protecting teachers from accountability?

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Finally. Now go back and edit everything you have written.

 

too right , good post

and let's face it, if kids know a teacher can be fired easily you can bet they will complain (if they don't like the teacher) - that's what teenage kids do

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yeah right, way to go - make those teachers eat dirt - that will show em!

Retarded post - why do you want teachers on fire at will contracts, min wage and pandering duties

 

You are not in an Internet bank or cafe. You have your own my elite lefty comrade. So why enjoy all the luxuries of capitalism instead of standing in solidarity with your socialist friends who never created anything worth buying? Go equalize yourself and disrobe yourself of this hypocrisy!

To answer your second question, vouchers. Parents already pay it through property and sales tax anyway. They already have the money, it was just taken from them so an elitist such as yourself can pay it child molestors and people who like to watch hardcore porn while your daughter sits in front of them in class.

 

The Soviets invented the AK and vodka, rather a fine mix I would think

But your logic is based on pure fuzzy reasoning - it's like saying everyone is China is a communist because the government is. No, we live where we live and have access to resources simply for being a citizen of that state. I bet you use the socialised infrastructure of your own nation, but does that make you a commie? well, by your logic it does and that is rather silly.

 

If you are talking about govt, subsidised vouchers (at least for those that are on low incomes), then how is that any different to state subsidised schooling anyway?

 

The dictatorial nature of humanity, will cause the realisation of this outcome, over time.

Not if they are seriously incompetent, but there must be some kind of due process to avoid kids complaining just because they don't like the teacher, or because they got a low test score.

The voucher system will inevitably lead to elitism and a three or four tiered school structure, with, as usual, the rich kids getting the best deal NOT based on merit.

 

Crappy gun, good for retards only. They didnt invent vodka, Poland did and still makes the best. The roads I pay for with gas taxes? Would be cheaper if privately run, like in China who built more private funded roads in the last decade then we have altogether in the last 50 years. Socialist policies suck after all. You cant even name a politician you would trust with your money, why so quick to trust them with everyone elses?

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Students and parents choose to spend their money, rather then some stranger. It is their money after all, they will be taxed the rest of their lives to pay for education, they should get some choice on how it is spent.

 

Your a moron, so there is no point arguing with you. Name a private attorney making minimum wage. There are no unions for them. Why do they command more? Why do all butchers make more then minimum wage? All welders?

Even if their kids repeatedly fail to learn in their classes, and post bad scores over time? How much due process? Should the person educating students be given more job protection then the janitor? Is it better to risk the education of a child then the wrongful termination of a teacher? Can you name any profession with a lower amount of employees fired? Name it please. What do you mean by "seriously" incompetent? What is an acceptable level of incompetence for you?

Vouchers allow the poor go to the good schools the rich kids can already afford. Elitism is telling them they cant choose for themselves, you will choose what school they go to. You must be able to see that what you want to do, continue to force these total strangers around because you think you know best is patent elitism, while letting them choose their schools is egalitarian.

 

I think most teachers are great people, but there is always a few rotten eggs in any group

"JON STEWART: Teachers Don't Work As Hard As Wall Street...At Ruining The World Economy"

http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-teachers-wall-street-taxpayers-bailout-video-2011-3

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As someone that respects our basic human rights and our successful culture (i guess that makes me a conservative), no i dont despise all public employees. I used to be one (a public employee), and admittedly during much of that time i was a mindless drone (whats in it for me!). Teachers go from school to school, they dont get to break the cycle and move into private industry sadly.

 

the religious fanatical teacher like those burning crosses into their students arms always have the private religious schools to look forward too

 

Another good reason for school choice. Atheists can send their kids to "the school for children of easily offended persons" and the bible thumpers can send them to religious schools that trounce the national averages on standardized testing.

 

We put all seven of our kids through private school. We are also paying for our four grandchildren to attend private school.

We did it for two reasons. We did it for the Christian values taught at the school. We also did it for the higher quality teachers.

The vast majority of public school teachers have never participated in a competitive market outside of their own parocial interplay.
In our opinion, this leaves them illequipped to prepare the children for a competitive market.

 

Seems to me the district cannot prove their case, or they would have by now. I also assume the district are the ones choosing to keep him from teaching in a classroom, not the union,........while they resolve his case. And I also assume these are isolated cases out of thousands, so yes, I think the system is working just fine and what you presented in the LA Times is sensationalism.

As suspected, this is from a rebuttal article, " A state panel that oversees contested teacher dismissals has ordered him returned to the classroom twice, but L.A. Unified officials have appealed." AND "I want to go back" to the classroom, he said. AND "When Kim sued the district and his former principal for discrimination, the district spent almost $1.4 million on the case and hired an outside law firm." AND "The state panel initially found no evidence that Kim was a bad teacher " AND "We won, but they won't let him back to the classroom," said Cecilia Kim http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/07/local/me-kim7

 

As a public employee and the father of a school teacher, I do not. On what principle do you despise us?

 

As a patriotic American, I despise ALL so-called conservatives as a matter of principle. How about you?

 

Teaching as a profession is very noble and I admire the ones that are good at it. Being against government control of education is not the same as being against education nor does it mean you are against teachers. Most of the folks in this profession would be teaching in private schools if the government were no longer in control of education and I would evaluate those teachers by the same standards as I do now.

 

Seems the rights biggest problem is attempting to disassemble unions and steal workers rights regardless if they are teachers or ditch diggers. There are bad teachers, just like there are bad preachers. Luckily there are few of each.

 

someone upset cause a teacher is burning crosses in childrens arms is now someone that is easily upset - lol

and I have no issue giving a person a tax cut for what they put into the system if their child goes to a private school, but only what they put in, not 50k a year per all their 10 kids for 12 years cause they refuse to take birth control, if they can't afford private school they go to public school like everyone else

republicans are starting to move away from the whole voucher thing after they realized Muslims schools could pop up and use them too

"Vouchers can be used for Muslim Schools? OOPS!"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/06/1106793/--Vouchers-can-be-used-for-Muslim-Schools-OOPS

"WATSON — Rep. Valarie Hodges, R-Watson, says she had no idea that Gov. Bobby Jindal’s overhaul of the state’s educational system might mean taxpayer support of Muslim schools …

'I liked the idea of giving parents the option of sending their children to a public school or a Christian school,' Hodges said."

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I think that is great and I am happy for you, and respect your opinion even if I disagree with it. What is this higher quality teacher? I assume they were educated in the same university's as other teachers. What makes you think a private teacher is any better at instilling a competitive attitude into a student than a public teacher? Are students tested? Do they do sports Do they have contests and competitive events? What's this silver bullet you think a private school is giving students?

 

My experience of teachers has often been one of disdain.
They are often disinterested and not that well educated in their particular field.

But they aren't entirely to blame as the system is really more geared towards passing exams rather than actually producing bright and well informed people.
I guess it's easier to place value on the former rather than the latter, then they can say they've done their job.

 

Hodges is dumb, don't care what she thinks. 99.9% of the things atheists sue for millions over is trivial at best. Burning children is obviously a crime.

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They have an incentive to perform or they don't get students. Public schools stay in business getting paid big cash even if they are horrible as thousands are.

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You will never get a leftist to admit they had a bad teacher or two. It is against their state worship. You will sooner find Christians that said " god made a mistake there. "