Disney to pull funding from Boy Scouts if they don't allow Homosexual leaders

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...couts-anti-gay-disney-20140228,0,211538.story

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Perez, though, said it was hard to say how much money had been funneled into Central Florida troops through the program since funds went directly to individual troops and was never calculated by the council office. In 2013, Disney announced the volunteer grants for the year totaled $916,000 to 450 local agencies — an average of $2,035 each.

So an average of $2k per local troop. I hope the local troops find a way to supplement the loss of funds. Just exactly what type of message is Disney trying to send by demanding that homosexual men be put in charge of little boys?

Should we demand that men be allowed to be girl scout leaders and to go on overnight camping trips with those little girls without adult woman supervision?

I'm done with Disney

 

How Walt must be turning in his grave... I'm predicting an earthquake in CA or FL soon...

 

One I do not like your innuendo that some how gay men are interested in little boys. You have no proof of that pedophiles are very different than being gay. Plus Disney is very clear about this, which you fail to mention. Disney does not contribute money to organizations that discriminate. They are not demanding the boy scout do anything. The Boy Scouts decided to be bigots and they will in turn lose some funding. I think you are asking the wrong question.

Why is the Boy Scouts a bigoted organization?

 

did you happen to see where I stated that maybe the girl scouts should be forced to have men go on unsupervised overnights with the little girls?

Nah, just focus on the part that affects you.

I hope Disney loses revenue over this

 

Disney wont and no I do not accept your answer, it is just a cover for you and others bigotry. Disney will not lose money. The Boy Scouts were well aware of this provision they did it to themselves. If anything the Boy Scouts will lose funding. Disney will be here after you and I. Plus I am sure if the people at Disney have seen your comments about homosexuals they wouldn't want your money anyway.

 

Why should gay men not be allowed to be Boy Scout leaders?

Bravo to Disney for not supporting the ignorance and bigotry that seems to be Scout's current leadership.

 

Interestingly enough, there is another organization called Trail Life, which is for folks who have Christian values, apparently one of which is not allowing gays around.

Perhaps there ranks will expand. More at the link.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_25233358/trail-life-courts-those-who-oppose-boy-scouts

NORTH RICHLAND HILLS, Texas -- Chatting in the living room one night, Ron Orr gave his 15-year-old son Andrew a choice: He could stick with the Boy Scouts of America and his mission to become an Eagle Scout, or he could join Trail Life USA -- the new Christian-based alternative that excludes openly gay boys.

This was no small decision. Four generations of Orr men had been Eagles, including Ron and Andrew's older brother. Andrew had spent years working toward Scouting's highest rank, and was just months from reaching it.

But the Boy Scouts had decided to admit gays, and Ron Orr, a tall, soft-spoken man with a firm handshake, is clear about his Christian faith and what it says about homosexuality: It is a sin that cannot be tolerated.

His son agreed. He would forgo the century-old BSA for Trail Life, which officially launched just last month.

"It felt like I'd be hitting something higher than Eagle in terms of achievement," Andrew said, in an interview.

So Orr and his son left BSA and set out with other families to build a new organization based on what they believe to be Christian values. Orr is a regional organizer who speaks to churches and groups about Trail Life. His son now aspires to achieve a Freedom Award, the new group's highest rank.

The Orrs and others in Trail Life say they are fighting for the traditional values of Christianity and of Scouting, which includes a command in the Scout Oath to be "morally straight" -- even as a changing America grows more accepting of gays and gay marriage. They are leaving an organization central to many of their upbringings with heavy hearts, but also with the belief that the Scouting they knew no longer exists.

"As Christians from a scriptural basis, we love all folks, but the Scripture is very clear that being homosexual is a sin," Ron Orr said in an interview. "We've got to be able to hold a strong line and set a consistent example for our young men."

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Trail Life has established units in more than 40 states, mostly from Boy Scouts and parents who feel their old organization has lost its way. It has about 600 units up and running or in the process of registration, executive director Rob Green said. As many as half of those who have expressed interest were not affiliated with the Boy Scouts beforehand, Green said.

It is still a tiny movement compared to Scouting, which has nearly 2.5 million youth members and remains a powerful force in American life, even with a 6 percent drop in membership last year.

Trail Life promotes itself on its website as the "premier national character development organization for young men which produces Godly and responsible husbands, fathers and citizens."

Its official membership standards policy welcomes all boys, but adds, "We grant membership to adults and youth who do not engage in or promote sexual immorality of any kind, or engage in behavior that would become a distraction to the mission of the program."

For over a century, Scouting banned openly gay youth and leaders, fighting all the way to the Supreme Court to defend its right to do so. Leaders who were revealed to be gay were excluded, and some boys were denied Eagle Scout awards by regional councils that were notified of their sexual orientation.

 

Good for Disney, they boy scouts will move into the 21st century or fold, their choice. Oh and have fun "boycotting" Disney I'm sure that will hurt them lol.

 

Oh boo-hoo you're done with Disney. Disney and their billions couldn't care less. Bravo for Disney standing up for equality while risking losing their homophobic customers.

 

Disney has been proactive toward gays for as long as I recall. No shock here. Personally, if I were in charge of the Scouts, I wouldn't want any leaders who didn't have kids either in the Scouts or formerly in the Scouts, or who wasn't a Scout themselves.

 

Disney has every right to pull funding and hopefully others will pull patronage. All it takes is $1 million to wash even.

I would not want my little girls going on over nighters with grown men and this is no different

 

I have no problem with disney pulling funding or other people boycotting Disney because of it. I really don't know enough about how their camps and such operate to have an opinion in that regard. I don't assume that every adult is a predator, but I wouldn't want a child with anyone I did not know--gay or straight. I am empathetic to your concerns, but I am not willing to allow myself to condemn a person as a predator based on their sexuality alone

 

You can say its a safe bet others will be pulling funding from the scouts as well, as they should in my opinion.

 

NAMBLA = man/boy love = male/male love = GAY

Your object lesson for the day.

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And yet you are against Christian business owners having the freedom to refuse service to homosexuals because of their religious beliefs. Fascinating.

 

Pathetic.

An undercover investigation of NAMBLA put their total membership roster at about 1100 people internationally.

They are no more representative of homosexuals than Jerry Lee Lewis fans or the branches of Mormonism that advocate old men marrying kids is representative of heterosexuals.

Disney is NOT free to refuse srvice to people at their parks, or to buy or attend their movies because of their religious affiliation, sex, race or gender orientation, just like everybody else.

Typical of Righties to not know the difference between gift giving and public business rules.

BTW, the Boy Scouts were a PUBLIC organization getting free government money, facilities and taxpayer support. When they took government money, they lost the right to blather their bigotry.

Remember they not only excluded scout LEADERS, they also excluded gay kids, too! What a bunch of pathetic losers.

 

If the United Negro College Fund can exclude non-Blacks from its scholarship programs than the BSOA can exclude homosexuals from its membership.

 

And NO ONE is forcing YOU to donate to the United Negro College Fund.

Certainly the BSOA can exclude anyone they want from their group.

And companies like Disney can choose to stop donating money to the BSOA when the BSOA organization acts in a bigoted manner.

So what's your problem?

 

Ok so its settled then. BSOA can run their private organization how they please, Disney can yank its money, and liberals can stop acting like calling somebody a bigots gives them right to decide how society should be.

You and me Dave, we're going to save this country.

 

man/girl "love" = male/female "love" = STRAIGHT = We're all paedophiles?

 

We've been over this on previous threads. I've helped run mixed-gender youth clubs in the past, with other adults both male and female. On your position, that should be impossible yet it happens, without major problems, all the time all over the world. Even Scouting is mixed-gender at some of the higher age groups in many countries.

You don't protect children by pretending to know the sexuality of some of the adults involved. You protect children by implementing policies for all adults (and all children) such as never having an adult alone with any children. If anything, this kind of faux controversy is a distraction and limitation on such policies. It's difficult enough to attract people to help run such youth organisations without dismissing a not insignificant chunk of the population out of hand.

 

when ths issue is debated no one on the left will care what the kids and parents think. It will all be about an adult who wants to live their dream of leading Boy Scouts.

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How is an unconditional outright ban on (openly) gay leaders dictated from national leadership taking account of what the parents and kids think, especially the ones who are gay themselves?

 

They don't allow gay leaders. People join voluntarily despite or because of or with the knowledge of this. Now gays want to force gays on children in the program. They can form their own private organization for gays that camp with kids, but they don't have to change another institution.

 

Disney is not forcing anyone to do anything, they are just saying they wont donate if the scouts have anti-gays rules

it's diseneys money, they can do with it as they wish, just as people can stop buying their stuff if they care so much about this issue, which I would guess most do not

 

They don't allow openly gay leaders. It’s a significant point.

Nobody is talking about "forcing gays on children". Do you believe they're currently forcing Christians on children because they have (indeed encourage) Christian leaders? Frankly your obsession with imagining of "gays camping with kids" is a little disturbing and demonstrates ignorance of how modern youth organisations actually run such events.

It isn't just homosexuals and it isn't just outside organisations talking about this, which was my point in responding to the comment about taking account of what the parents and kids think. The change in policy to accept (openly) gay boys could only come about because enough people within the organisation wanted it and a similar change in policy may well come about on the same basis.