Is the Party over for the TPs?

Whether Turdblossom is winning his war with the TPs via attrition or the deployment of vast sums of GOP establishment elites' money, the decline of the Angry White Guys continues. With national support barely rising to 30% in recent years (currently at 24%,) their giddy days of nominating their O'Donnells, Akins, Angles, and Mourdocks are clearly behind them.

I'm hoping for a last gasp of fetid breath for the candidacy of Rand Son of Ron. He could well be their parting finger at the classic country clubables.


Old TPS never die!

(They just smell that way.)

 

Taxcutter says:
Tea Party House members won their primaries without opposition in Indiana and most of them in Ohio did, too.

 

Both trailblazing political bellwethers, of course, but gerrymandering clearly works.

I'm rooting for Randall to give GOP fat-cat puppet-masters like the Turdblossom, the Kochheads, and Carrot Top Adelson the heebie-jeebies, but he appears to be the only Republican on the national scene who can put up a decent hissyspat against them and Jabba the Bush.

 

Gallup- Only 41% of Republicans support the Tea Party.

 

The Tea Party had quite some influence in the 2010 midterms. Back then, moderates seemed to think that the Tea Party had a small-government, low-tax agenda. Turns out, they focuses far more on social policy.

Tea Partiers do not represent real American values, and the Tea Party is quickly losing favor. Since they've been shunned by the mainstream, they have taken to controlling state house. They've been pushing radical legislation like Georgia's recent guns-in-churches law. Tea Partiers are proud of their non-negotiable beliefs, and their inability to compromise will be their downfall. The Tea Party is an extremist group that should not be given tax exemptions and should not be taken seriously by anyone who cares about America.

 

If the RNC and the "GOP Establishment" hit a Grand Slam...i.e.

1. Boehner wins his Primary (done)

2. John Cornyn wins his Primary (done)

3. Mitch McConnell wins his Prmary (looking good for ol' Turtle Head)

4. Lindsey Graham wins his Primary (Lindsey sitting pretty now)

5. Eric Cantor wins his Primary

6. Thad Cochran wins his Primary over the heavily TP-backed Chris McDaniel.....


that's the ball game for the Tea Party. Throw in losses like Thom Tilles winning in NC over the Rand Paul-backed Greg Brannon....and it's painfully obvious that the Tea Party doesn't have the "muscle" it did like in 2010 when it got morons like Christine O'Donnnell, Joe Miller, Sharron Angle, etc. nominations. Or even "half-morons" like Richard Mourdock in 2012.

Unless there is a REAL "revolt" by the Tea Partyers...and the GOP doesn't take the majority in the Senate and it's clearly traced to "Tea Partyers staying home"....

there will be NO reason for the "Establishment" to fear or respect the Tea Partyers EVER again. And without fear or respect?....they are nothing but the loyal lap-dogs of the RNC....nothing more.

 

The problem is that the Tea Partiers forgot their roots, as they were taken over by the Religious Right. The root of the Tea Party was constitutionalism and smaller government, with social issues being relegated to secondary. The Religious Right took over, and ruined the TP. I hope the TP can get back to it's roots, and tell corporate interests and evangelists to take a hike.

 

Taxcutter says:
It worked quite well for Indiana Democrats - particularly the old IN-2, with its stealth gerrymander.

 

No such thing as the TP. They are merely a more conservative arm of the Republican party and theyre not going away.

Much to the chagrin of lefties stuck with a dying Dem party.

Bless your hearts...

 

As Goldwater predicted, the religious right has become an Achilles heel if not the demise of the modern Conservatism.

The Tea Party has succeeded in marginalizing modern Republicans, if not demonizing, and numerous other groups such as Blacks, Latinos, Gays, and any woman who does not agree with an extremist abortion position.

The miss-steps of the Obama administration created a great opportunity opportunity for the GOP. This opportunity has been squandered.

That the TP is not going away, rather than to the chagrin of the lefties, is one of the most joyous things possible for the Dems.

Most of what I see out of the GOP these days is what they are against. OK fine, but what are they for other than platitudes that are hard to digest with a straight face.

The GOP wasting time on witch hunts such as Benghazi ? Who would have expected that out of the religious right ? Gosh, what a surprise.

I thought I heard from Bush that our policy was "we are not only going after the terrorists but the supporters of terrorism". I did not see Bush going after his father and Rumsfeld for knowingly supporting Saddam's terror program ?

Speaking of supporting terrorists. I do not hear much from the left or the right these days on the fallout (civil war resulting in over 100,000 deaths and counting) from Obama's support of extremist Islam (including Al Qaeda) in Syria.

The Keystone Pipeline will have zero effect on the Global CO2 output and has broad support among Americans in general and support of many Democrats. Not building this Pipeline serves only to put money in the pockets of countries such as Nigeria which are huge environmental polluters (dumping nasty stuff into the ocean). Contrary to what noted experts such as Robert Redford and Darrel Hanna have to say, a barrel of Nigerian conventional crude does way more harm to the environment than a barrel of Canadian crude according to people who actually have a clue.

I could go on and on but none of this matters because the GOP is marginalizing and demonizing pretty much anything that moves.

 

Probably, but I was hoping for open internecine warfare. The TP is going down with nary a whimper. Disappointing.

 

Once again, SMW....calling the Tea Partyers LIARS. For the TP always claim they are "non-partisan" and "not beholden to the Republican Party".

Yet, here's SMW say....they are simply some faction of the GOP under the control of the Party.

 

It's amazing to think that one of the "Founding Fathers of Modern Conservatism"...Barry Goldwater....would be called a "Christian bashing lib'rul atheist" by a lot in his Party today.

Reminds me of that "GOP Purity Test" they put out back before the 2012 Election.....and REAGAN would have failed it.

 

Yeah, I thought the TPers had some fight in them....turns out they crumble under assault and given 99% of them will remain loyal Republican voters...even voting for "RINOs" in November......easily ignorable by the Party Leadership once they've been crushed in the Primaries.

No "Lee's Confederate Army"...not even "Defenders of the Alamo"....they surrender so fast the French mock them.

 

Let me break it down for you, GC. The reason 'tea partiers' didn't form their own party was because they're smart enough to know they have more power working thru one of the major parties. Even getting ONE 'tea party' candidate elected TO A REPUBLICAN SEAT was a huge victory for the brand new movement. Everything after that has been icing on the cake. The Republican Party is being driven further right by the TP movement. I see it in every communication I get from the RNC and I get a bunch.

So you can do-dah all day long about the demise of something that never officially existed... but here's the real crux of the matter.

Tea party members VOTE. And they vote REPUBLICAN.



Everytime.

 

Come Gorn, you would like to see a battle between the Republicans and the Tea Party so that the Democrats could slip right in and take it. Your an open book, not only with this but also immigration reform.

 

Cant speak for Gorn but, I would like to see something that resembles "Conservative" in the Repulican party.

 

I think I had 'em pegged pretty well. You know, 60-year old overweight white women with spandex shorts and tattoos on their legs.

 

I agree with OP, the TP is to be feared and dreaded by the left as all the anti TP sniping, name-calling and opprobrium clearly demonstrate. The lion does not roar at ants but at other lions. The TP represents cognitive dissonance for lefties who know deep down they should be complaining about biggov in accordance with true leftist principles of the past, but that teat in their mouths is so sweet and has become too attached to remove.

 

I think the name-calling and opprobrium against the TP are needed only because the TP is the only target out there. And it is fun.

 

They did manage to nominate O'Donnell, Akin, Mourdock, and Angle (for which Democrats should be indebted to them) but Turdblossom and the country clubbables have thrown enough fat cat money at the problem to hasten their decline.

The angry old white guys will have to be content with the Party's establishment doing quite well in 2014. After that, it's downhill for the GOP as the nation's demographics determines their fate.

Of course, the existential necessity will dictate that they then move back to the ideological centre where the American electorate is to be found.

 

Senator Graham's "Angry White Guys" (or McCain's "Wacko birds" if one prefers) seem to have a spot of irreverent flippancy themselves when it comes to "TP sniping, name-calling and opprobrium":

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I've said it before in this forum and i'll say it again; the Tea Party, much like the highly touted Reform Party, will fade into relative obscurity within a couple of years, if not sooner. They are too extreme for most Americans. Better luck next time folks.

 

I remember about a month before the mid term elections of 2010 any number of confident leftwingers making very similar predictions about the Tea Party, and yet not only are they still going strong -- despite Obama's effort to keep them out of play by using the IRS in 2012 -- but are a good part of the reason that the Dem Party is predicted by Dem experts to be going to suffer yet another stupendously painful political shellacking in 2014.

So -- -- could you perhaps give us Tea Party watchers some sort of firm timeline. I mean just how long are they going to continue to exist and continue to grow in influence BEFORE they vanish overnight, leaving nary a trace of their former existence?

Would that be the very day AFTER the projected 2014 mid term political shellacking of the Dem Party's leadership . . . and if so, then why vanish then and there? You don't think they might want to hang around to muck about with the 2016 presidential election? Oh . . . and what specifically is going to destroy them? Will they all come down with a Marxist viral ideological-infection of some sort; turning into tax and spend Democrats the day after? Please enlighten us. We really are all agog, truly.

 

It all depends on the will of the American people. It could go in a month or 2-3 years; it all depends on the American people's support or lack of support.

I'll be sitting on the sidelines with a bag of popcorn and a six pack watching all the action unfold over the next 3 years.