The Nazis were not a left wing liberal progressive party

And yet it would be revisionism to claim that because decimate is used to be total destruction it meant that the Romans executed entire legions when decimation was chosen as a suitable punishment. That's what's happening when people claim that the Nazis were left wing because they want to fit the Nazis into the other side. They're changing what it meant at the time to suit their own political agenda today. That's revisionism. It's considered dishonest.

 

Nazis were Nationalistic Racists moderates, Grow up Hippies and Tea Party nutjobs

 

You're presenting a rotating argument, in your OP you stated that they were a right wing conservative party, but their economic policies were far from that. You can make the argument that they weren't really socialist.. but then again what system in history do people enthusiastically refer to as a "true" socialist nation?

 

The problem is Socialism can be Right Wing

 

Yeah. People in China right now who want to return to the "good ol' days of socialism" would be right wingers wanting to return to an idolised past.

 

Hitler was a moderate, he had support from both Corporations and the People. He didn't want to destroy the Private Sector nor rob his citizens.

 

Marx's original title was "An der Juden Frage"

Um, yea, so if the title is incorrect, I would think the content it contained would be suspect.

 

Does that mean "the Jewish Question" and some treatise on the belief that the Jews were bad for the State?

 

On the Jewish Question.

 

Correct, basically it was titled "on the jewish question" in which Marx talked about granting Jews civil rights can be done without them leaving Judaism. How it turned to "A world without jews" is unknown. But hey, it does make for good political fodder, as it has done in this thread....

EDIT: Panzer beat me to it.

 

Absolutely. And the USSR wasn't communist, Stalin wasn't a communist, and Barack Obama wasn't raised to be a communist. No, no, no, Germany under Hitler has to be conservative. The Third Reich and the Cult of Personality surrounding Hitler is so conservative. Not at all like Stalin, Che, Castro, Hugo Chavez, FDR, and Mao.

 

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Hitler went after the Socialists and Communists with a passion... That's why so many Eastern European Jews fled to Palestine and elsewhere.

 

Have you been to storm front

 

Of course not. The Nazis were the Nazis. The real problem isn't what they believed in but the fact that people think that they belong to any one set and thus can be used to insult a position.

 

How were the nazis conservative?

 

The National Socialist Party and the policies they engaged in were FAR more liberal than they were conservative.

 

No they weren't.. They also persecuted artists, musicians, actors and that whole artsy crowd.

 

Yes... they were. They engaged in socialized medicine... they believed in worker's rights over big business rights, they supported unions against big business, they believe in redistribution of wealth...

What policies are you claiming they had that were conservative?

 

Disagree, or rather were Mao, PolPot, Stalin RW? I think it's semantic sleight of hand to take the inevitable historical results of completely LW radical revolutions and try to pass it off as RW when the dirty birds come home to roost.

 

Key word is "control" here. I'm no expert in 3 Reich jurisprudence, but will go ahead and wager there are NO legal cases upholding the property rights of commercial interests against the Nazis. Someone cite such jurisprudence other than some anomaly, and I might begin to change my tune as to whether the control amounted to socialism or not. IMO it certainly did equate to socialism without much stretch of the term at all. Allowing the ants to keep making their tunnels at your discretion is not capitalism until there are restrictive rules in place to keep you from smashing part or all of their hill to your benefit any time you choose.

 

Why do you supposed the socialist fled ahead of the Nazis?

 

You are conflating political party names with actual political outcome. Every radical, revolutionary LW movement seeks to eliminate all competition, even different brands of the same substance. See Lenin.

 

The Nazis locked up Union members in concentration camps.

The long term unemployed were declared work shy and sent to Dachau.

 

I could have sworn, Margot, that Hitler and Stalin were allies and coordinated the invasion of Poland. And, Jews in eastern Europe were slaughtered by the socialist Nazis. The ones who did flee to Palestine were turned away by the anti-Semitic Brits is they caught them.

Pogroms were common in Russia historically and discriminated against in the USSR. My first Russian language instructor was talking about racism in the U.S. and proudly announced that his daughter had dated a black man in Paris. He went on about how much he liked black men, which is fine. Then I said, "How about dating a Jew?" He went absolutely berserk. Screaming that the question was stupid and that there was no comparison because Jews weren't human. He spewed the same crap and the Nazis. When I was in language school in the military all of the instructors were from the USSR and only one didn't hate Jews. He was from Azerbaijan and, being a Muslim, didn't think Jews were any worse than Christians. He was also pretty sure he'd never met a Jew.

 

They were not allies. They had a non aggression pact with stated spheres of influence that cut through Poland.