Nurse Hickox Refuses to Voluntarily Quarantine Herself

When leftists talk about "the greater good", they have one thing in mind ~ government coerced wealth redistribution.

 

Rational people would say, "whew!" But you say, "See, there's nothing to it." Don't take your contrived braggadocio so seriously man. It really is dangerous.

 

But, but , but what about science? I guess those nurses knew nothing about science....go figure.

 

Where did your medical degree come from, "doctor"?
The back of a cereal box? http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/

That's what I love about all you internet medical experts....take one part leftist political agenda, one part supreme self confidence backed by nothing at all and one part sheer bluster and...voila!
This is how misinformation gets spread around and it seems so simple to you...even when you are dead wrong!

 

The real tragedy is that this has been a totally classic Obama style cluster-fluke from the get go and precisely what we have come to expect coming from this president and from his administration and still these bitter dead-ender Obama supporters fanatically defend a POLITICALLY BASED medical policy even though they can see that it's been totally screwed up in nature from the get-go and is, in fact, outright stupid. That's just sad.

 

Oh and this is more reassuring?
September
" In the unlikely event that someone with Ebola does reach our shores"

How many now?

", we’ve taken new measures so that we’re prepared here at home."

Oh we were? Not according to the nurses in Texas.

:"We’re working with hospitals to make sure that they are prepared, and to ensure that our doctors, our nurses and our medical staff are trained, are ready, and are able to deal with a possible case safely."

Not according the the nurses associations.

And now we are to rely on the honor system for arrogant medical people such as this nurse and the doctor in NY?

 

The hospital that sent a man home that was from Liberia and in the very active stages of full blown Ebola? The hospital that employed an administrator that did not think it was imperative enough to report the paperwork on Eric Duncan to a superior? The hospital that allowed Mr. Duncan's dirty, soiled and infected waste and medical paraphenelia to pile up as opposed to sterlizing it and disposong of it properly? Get real! Not taking the bait...I'm form NY, a blue state where we think on our feet and have hospitals that have been preparing for months. You should not depend on BIG GOVERNMENT to tell you what to do....figure it out yourself. Build that isolation medical unit...BUILD THAT!

 

OK then how many dead people IS acceptable in order to appease this nurse and arrogant arse's like her?

 

The CDC failed to do what it's traditionally been trained in doing for at least a century. That hospital had ZERO Ebola training and so they could not have been expected to cope. Why the Left is making excuses for THE organization trained in this stuff that had been put on notice many weeks previous is down to p-o-l-i-t-i-c-s and nothing else.

 

You keep repeating the same drivel void of facts or logic.. You're excusing their pathetic ineptitude because they are a hospital and should not be expected to be prepared for infectuous illness..now that's genius...Why is NYC prepared and how has Emory successfully cured it's patients? I'm done here...LOL

BTW...Enjoy ranting about the right wing's Ebolaghazi

 

Yes; being done here was indicative quite some time ago when Right of Center poster after Right of Center poster methodically debunked every leftwing excuse and assertion simply by presenting cold hard facts. One notices, for instance, that after it was proved that a lab result return of 'negative' for someone recently exposed to Ebola ONLY means that the person has not yet exhibited signs of having Ebola at that point in time, our leftwingers instantly bailed on that particular subject. So, yes, 'being done' was established long ago. It's just taken some people longer than others to realize it and . . . run away.

 

You mean the Czar we don't need, that Obama appointed under pressure from Republicans? The Czar who isn't going to do anything, because there's nothing important for him to do?

What about him?

 

Stay home. You'll be safe.
BTW - The doc in texas who died, no one in his family caught ebola. And he lived with them.

 

Excuse for what? I have not come across even one right winger that had any sensible thing to say on this subject. Benghazi flopped so they picked up a new banner...that's the bottom line. These are the same types that burned witches in Salem. Science has zero credibility for the right. Thus far EVERY American medical caregiver has been cured here and has not infected anyone else, but I'll lay odds that in some way that irks the right.

 

I agree. What's wrong with these folks. Especially texas. The state that is for it's own responsibility. Everyone in texas should just stay in there house. Everyone in texas can NOT leave their state. Anyone who's been to texas must go back to texas and stay there. Be responsible for yourself.

 

From the CDC website, not a New York Post scare story.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html


Unlike respiratory illnesses like measles or chickenpox, which can be transmitted by virus particles that remain suspended in the air after an infected person coughs or sneezes, Ebola is transmitted by direct contact with body fluids of a person who has symptoms of Ebola disease. Although coughing and sneezing are not common symptoms of Ebola, if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease.


Ebola does not cause coughing and sneezing, hence the risk of an Ebola patient coughing or sneezing on you is very low. Thus the explanation that while it is theoretically possible, it is highly unlikely.

Scientists have never encountered a case of Ebola being spread through a sneeze:
http://www.webmd.com/news/20141006/how-get-ebola


Scientists have been studying Ebola for decades, and they’ve never seen the disease passed through the air, according to the WHO. What’s more, it’s highly unlikely that the virus could change to become airborne.

The only way Ebola gets into the air is in large droplets of vomit or saliva. These droplets are heavy and wouldn’t be able to travel very far.

In theory, people might be able to catch it if someone coughed or sneezed directly onto them, but people who get Ebola generally don’t cough or sneeze.

What’s more, the WHO says it’s not aware of any studies that have ever shown the virus spreading this way.

Catching Ebola from someone else requires “close and direct” contact with infected body fluids, the WHO says. The most infectious body fluids are blood, stool, and vomit.


More on how hard it is to catch Ebola:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/odds-catching-ebola-subway-handy-facts/story?id=26282017


What If I Stand Next to Someone With Ebola on a Subway?

You probably won't catch it in that situation, Dr. Jay Varma, New York City’s deputy commissioner for disease control, said during the town hall event.

"Casual contact like you would have somebody pass you on the bus or on the subway, I’m not worried about it for myself and I’m not worried about it for my wife and kids," Varma said.

How Is Ebola Spread?

Ebola is spread through close contact with an infected person, and it’s not airborne, Besser said.

“We also know from the studies in Africa that it’s a hard disease to get,” Besser said. “If this disease was spread through the air or was spread easily -- that you could get it from someone you’re standing next to in the market or sitting next to on a plane -- this outbreak would be far larger than it is today.”

People who contract Ebola usually do so because they've cared for someone who was infected in a hospital setting or at home, Besser noted, or they've touched the body of a person who died of Ebola.

Can It Become Airborne?

“The majority of scientists say that while it’s possible, it’s highly unlikely,” Besser said, explaining that the virus would have to mutate significantly.

What If Someone With Ebola Sneezes on Me?

Sneezing is not a symptom of Ebola, Besser said. Neither is coughing until the very late stages of the disease, when the person is clearly sick and near death. On top of that, the disease is not airborne.

 

I repeat; the moment that the false claims issued by leftwingers that the lab report return of negative on that recently exposed nurse meant that she absolutely did not have Ebola was debunked our leftwingers promptly abandoned the subject.

Similar claims by them on a variety of Ebola-topic issues were also methodically debunked by Right of Center posters. I guess that the thing about these Right of Center posters that some -- sick to the absolute depths of their soul -- leftwingers claim to be wallowing in their own filth, is that most Right of Center posters actually do tend to be well educated and more than capable of out-reasoning the generic leftwinger, whom all too often substitutes feeeeeeeeeeeeelings and ideologically imbued political loyalty on a subject for actual thought.

 

Oh, yes. We mustn't forget how the republicans "made" Obama appoint a political spear carrier for Al Gore and Joe Biden to help with Ebola policy.
Brilliant move!

According to you Ebola cannot be spread by sneezing, though it can by the CDC's reckoning, so with a track record like that why wouldn't anyone
listen to you treat Ebola with all the seriousness of a case of pink eye.

 

Here...I highlighted the important part and cut out the rest. You said spreading Ebola through sneezing was virtually impossible.

And yet there is no reason whatsoever why a person infected with Ebola might not sneeze for a variety of reasons.

The fact is scientists are currently engaged in a controversy over the likelihood of contracting Ebola through airborne means.
"Q. Isn’t the virus airborne if a sneeze can move it three feet? What is the likelihood that Ebola will mutate into an airborne virus?

A. Although both the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention take the position that Ebola is not transmitted through the air, scientists are publicly battling, on news websites and science websites over whether it is possible in rare cases — or could become possible if the virus mutates.
Much has been made of two small studies in which the virus appeared to have passed through the air between monkey cages or between pigs and monkeys caged above them. It does appear, some scientists argued, as if prolonged exposure to airborne droplets under laboratory conditions might pass the disease. However, others argued that transmission might be an accident of cage cleaning, feeding or urine splashes." http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/...-ebola-in-sneezes/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Would you like to bet your life you absolutely could not contract Ebola if an infected person sneezes on you? I wouldn't.

 

We shouldn't make errors either way. We certainly shouldn't sacrifice lives here stateside so people can go to West Africa to help, but we need people to do that as well. A quarantine seems reasonable to most people.

 

If they had quarantined those in Africa that were around people with ebola, the epidemic would have never become an epidemic. Quarantine has proven to work throughout human history, if you can make people do it, or if they will do it on their own.

What I find odd, is that scientists, medical doctors who spend many years being experts, who know more about viruses than the public, and who protect themselves in Africa while treating ebola patients, some of these doctors caught the disease. Do you think they were careful, or just ignored protocol?

So apparently even the smart experts on ebola can catch it. So quarantining a nurse who has much less expertise seems sensible, and if its an error, its an err on the side of public safety and health.

 

Bloviating much? I have no idea which nurse you are speaking of, but once again, it has ONLY been people treating and in extremely close contact with the infected that have become infected here. That seems to be a point that goes way over the heads of the right wing Chicken Littles.

 

How often are you sneezed or coughed on? Holy (*)(*)(*)(*)ing reaching Batman.

 

But that is enough to show it IS contagious. Why are you so willing to allow innocent people to be exposed to this deadly disease?

 

That's nothin'. To hear them talk, there are people here that get vomited on on a regular basis.