If you want to tick off Muslims, don't expect my sympathy.

Arguably, you might not be condoning it, but you are justifying it.

 

There is a difference here. Hibdo was a satirical news magazine not all that different from the "Onion", Westboro Baptist is increasingly just a dingy parody of itself. Lot's of people like Charlie Hibdo as lots of people like the Onion.No one as near as I can tell likes WBC.

 

there are many things you can apply this too....


a girl can avoid getting raped if she wears some damn clothes and not drink alcohol...... but that's still her choice. And if she DOES get raped, despite ignoring all the 'common sense" ways to avoid it.... that doesn't mean you call her a slut and move on with life.....



same here.....


South park writers, probably Family guy writers too, are definately paying attention here. And I'm sure the magazine in France did the same thing..... they are equal opportunity offenders..... yet it's not the Christians, or the Scientoligists, or the Mormans, or the Hindus, or the Africans, or Terry Shiavo's family or any other group these people have offended over the years that are attacking and killing them... .it's just the Muslims.


Would you get upset if the Robertsons killed Bill Mahrers writing staff because he made an anti-Christian joke about them and the God they believed in? I would. I would also have sympathy for the people that were attacked.....


but it's pretty clear, you are a muslim apologist..... trying to justify a terrorist act......

 

do you feel sorry for abortion doctors who are killed by lunatic Christians because they should have used common sense and not continued to abort kids because they knew abortions were going to upset Christians

 

I find Charlie Hebdo to be a horrid rag, but they should be free too print what ever satire they want without the risk of violence being done to them or their business. I as a religious person can choose not to read the garbage. No this is akin to blaming the rape victim because she was a woman in the wrong part of town.

 

No one is asking you personally.

Except they are often done so by violating local laws.

IN many of their issues....you should maybe learn about who these guys are before you get on your high horse.

They poke fun at everyone....check out some of their cartoons on Huffpo, Buzzfeed, and virtually every outlet yesterday

But you are making an excuse for it.

So you condemn them because you don't like how they use their free speech.......isn't that what free speech is about? The fact that we have to live with things that bother us.

You obviously no nothing of the magazine.....sad you took this time to rant from ignorance and not go and learn.

 

As a person of Hindu heritage, I find it offensive to call me a Muslim terrorist apologist given how many innocent Hindus have died under Muslim hands. You sound like a feminist labeling everyone a rape apologist who dare ask women to be more cautious.

 

cry me a river.... if you bomb me for offending you, I guess I shouldn't expect any sympathy....




so answer my question


do you feel sorry for abortion doctors that get killed by radical Christians who should use common sense and not abort babies since they know that offends Christians?

 

So you are into blaming the victim? Dress like a slut and get drunk, expect to be raped? Mock the prophet, expect to be murdered?

The ONLY thing to do in this case is CONDEMN THE ATTACK. I notice your stance is the same as that of a group of Catholics: story

 

Of course they should. Why should anyone be convicted of a crime when his victim is kept secret?

 

I feel sorry for those who died in France, but I'm not sympathetic to their desire to intentionally infuriate Muslim extremists.

You are free to walk around the south side of Chicago with a "go back to Africa" shirt. But don't expect me to be surprised if you get you ass kicked.

 

How is approving of risk management "blaming the victim" ?

 

Westboro Baptist Church are actually conservatives... blue dogs and republicans

liberals don't act like that, conservatives do

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What are their worship times?

 

You sir, are sucking up to Islamic radicals and the Islamic faith, that is not compatable to Western democracy.

Yor are saying it is not the fault of Islamics that in their twisted faith and morals (HA), they have some sort of right to mow down an entire newspaper staff.

Just common sense would be to never allow any Islamic person into a Western democratic nation unless they sign a pledge to debunk all aspects of their Islamic ideology that is non-compliant with Western laws and values.

Even more common sense would have been in order if the two main suspects in the terrorist attack had been executed for their prior convictions of Islamic terror.

This kind of thing happens when liberal and Marxist fools take over the government.

 

do you sympathize for the doctors who were killed at abortion clinics because they should have stopped doing things that they knew radical Christians didn't like?

 

According too who, you?

Who died and made you editor-in-chief of the world???

 

because you have yet to demand people you support to follow these same common sense guidelines you seem to deem appropriate for people making fun of Muslims....


common sense says abortion clinics should stop aborting babies because it enfuriates Radical Christians....

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Bill Mahrer goes out of his way to anger Christians.... maybe Channe should tell him to use common sense and stop because he won't feel sorry for the writers that a Christian kills because he's mad

 

I've seen some of the Muhammad cartoons that came out of there. There is nothing good about that speech. I believe it should be legally permitted but morally denounced, and the attack should be condemned. I disagree with saying "We are Charlie". No, I am not Charlie. I don't spout evil, with the only goal of producing more evil, and that's what they did. Why would good people associate themselves with people producing such messages of hate? I'll say yet again, you are falling into the enemies' trap. They want the Muslims not under their sway already to see you holding signs saying "I am Charlie".

 

Islam is incompatible with western democracy. But the French have 6 million Muslims in France now. And isn't it best to avoid infuriating radicals if you can ? What was the purpose of these illustrations ?

 

People would have been better off if they had whacked Moses when he came down from the mountain spouting his delusions. The same goes for Moses and Jesus. Allowing crazy people to gain power and control over you is the worse thing that can happen. From a practical matter three crazy people killing twelve people isn't that big of a thing in a world with over 7 billion people. What is a big thing is if the 7 billion people cave in like little rabbits because of the actions of the three crazy people. But a few loonies have always been able to control thousands and even entire nations because the rabbits don't have a drop of courage among them to kill the crazy people who control them through fear and intimidation. It's been that way since people formed their first group. The Bible has countless stories illustrating it.

 

do you feel that Bill Mahrer should be publically denounced when he makes fun of Christians?


do you feel that South park should be morally denounced for making fun of CHristians?

or do you only apologize for Muslims....

 

Yet some will accuse you of condoning it. I hope you know that. I understand fully, how you cannot mock the religious founders of particular religions, for people depend upon their silly religious beliefs for security, and it is probably more important to these people than anything else in their existence, without risking that such true believers will come after you to murder you, especially since their own beliefs condone such behavior. Some of them see it as righteous behavior, to kill those who mock their religious founders. The question is, should a modern civilization accept this, and then lean over backward to never mock anyone? For fear that the group you mock would murder you, or mass murder people who mocked? Do we want modern society to be governed by fears of mocking? I think such a society is based upon the freedom to mock whoever in the hell you feel like, and we consider this modern civilized freedom. Do we desert that? And never mock anyone we think is stupid? Should our society be based them upon fear?


Or, would we rather have a modern civilized society that never mocks anyone's religious beliefs, given how important religion is to some people, in being their psychological security blanket? That is, as a society we just respect the beliefs of the various groups within such a society? Is this a modern idea that has more merit than the mockery? Perhaps it does.

When I was young in the 50s if you wanted to get attacked, by someone else, just refuse to give him basic respect. And so my generation was taught, conditioned, to respect all other people, and to keep your mouth shut. Today, we have this less intelligent idea that respect has to be earned. And that causes more problems within society than we had when the other sort of respect was given, without being earned.

There is so little respect today, of the other person. Just look at how the left disrespects the right and the right the left, going after the personality instead of the policy. Frankly, we don't respect anyone, except our own egos. And this creates problems. Sometimes it creates mass murders. Now, you can reject this, and think about how "things should be", but I am only concerned with "how things are".. I choose to live in how things are, instead of a fantasy of how things should be.

If this teaches us anything, perhaps it should teach us to gain back some respect for the feelings of others. And move us away from the idea, the selfish, egocentric idea of respect having to be earned, and start just giving respect to others, without strings attached. Like it was long ago in my youth, before society got so much more rude, uncaring, course, self centered. Just a suggestion.

 

You are condoning murder when you justify it. Your thinking mimics the terrorists. A society stands by free speech and stands against murder or doesn't value freedom and justifies murder.

 

The French could expel 6 million muslims if they had the guts to do it. Soon they will have 7 million, then 12 million, and then 20 million. Too bad they don't have a Ferdinand & Isabella.