FACT: Atheists are Lost

You're a human, I presume.
Therefore, your human fallibility is all over the bible. In your own personal way.

 

Actually religion is about marketing in its purest sense, but theists like to call it evangelizing.

 

That's an opinion, not a fact.

Most of the atheists I know and have known are/were perfectly rational, well-adjusted and happy people - the furthest thing from lost.

 

Everyone that thinks an invisible omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent supernatural entity created them, believes they were created by magic.

Hoist by your own petard.

Magic:
1. the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces

 

Not mine, I don't teach it, nor do I assume I can interpret it all.

 

That's your opinion, not a fact. The fact I quoted referenced the percentage of Atheists that didn't claim to be Atheist, yet fit the definition to the word... therefore, lost. Had zero to do with how well adjusted and happy they are, that is absolutely YOUR opinion... an extreme minority opinion at that.

 

Intelligent design is creation by means of Magic

 

So how do know that Christianity is more correct than another religion like Buddhism or Islam?

 

Are you being obtuse? I did answer your question about what I said, but if you require the link that YOU gave, here it is: www.tfd.com/superstition. Is this your new strategy, to wear down your opponent with meaningless and purposely misleading demands about what they said? It is working, though I find it dishonest. I am done with this conversation and will not answer any more questions about it. I will continue to argue that science is the best tool we have for discovering how the universe works, but I'm done playing he-said-she-said.

 

So, in essence, the Atheists are also marketing their religion? The Atheists are evangelizing?

 

Did you notice the word "apparently"? Have you seen any person claiming that an" invisible omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent supernatural entity" is readily apparent?

"ap·par·ent
(ə-păr′ənt, ə-pâr&#8242adj.1. Readily seen; visible: The animal's markings were immediately apparent.
2. Readily understood; clear or obvious: "

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And you have positive knowledge and evidence that will support your claim?

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And to think that I was just beginning to have fun. Oh well.. Have a nice day.

 

Faith. How do you know which theory of global warming is correct?

 

the bible says it was magic

the bible says God magically created man from dirt

then magically created women from one of man's ribs

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No, atheists don't have a religion.

"marketing" is an inescapable aspect of the human condition and civilization.

 

So apparently your god is not apparent. I agree.

But I have seen this claim of a readily apparent god repeatedly. In fact every creationist uses it and ID is wholly predicated upon it.

 

The one that has the best evidence supporting it. See, no faith required.

 

What passage of scripture?

What passage of scripture?

What passage of scripture?

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Come on now Jonsa. Have you recently reviewed the thread entitled "what is truth"? Perhaps you should review the last 7 or 8 postings on that thread.

 

I get ignored again, I love how the bible thumpers pick and choose the facts they "believe", only if it supports their pre-established conclusion. They don't ask if budda, allah, science or any other belief may offer more substantiated answers than "i read a book that said so" and "my parents told me that is the way it is". No independent thought there.

Incorpreal, please review how to use quotations. You are making it hard to separate, quotes from your post.

 

To someone who does not claim to have or claim to use spiritual discernment,,, God is not apparent. That type of person would be called (as stated in the 'Bible') a "natural man".

 

Most bible translations plug "wild oxen" in there instead of "unicorns," at least for Isaiah. From what I've found, the "unicorn" translation is based on a mistake originally made in the Septuagint.

Cf. https://carm.org/bible-unicorn

 

Well, yes there is, you obviously have faith in what you determine to be the "best" evidence, just as I have faith in the evidence I see for God. No difference there.

 

That makes more sense, since none of the references to unicorns that I have read make any mention of it's magical horn. Just sounds more like a mistranslation than anything.

 

Yes. Translation quality affects the bible and other such texts a great deal. It's especially difficult when the source material is so far removed in terms of time and culture, as it can leave the translator doing a lot of guessing.

How does a believer in an inerrant bible handle that? Do you say that the translators are divinely inspired and guided? Do you say that God's message reaches you through even a badly translated text thanks to the Holy Spirit? Either suggestion is made up out of thin air to explain away a problem, just as claiming divine inspiration for the bible's canonical texts was made up, but it is a problem that needs to be addressed somehow.

 

Nope. With science you can look at the evidence yourself. You can duplicate the observations and experiments if you want to. That is the hallmark of science, reproducible evidence. Can the evidence you see for God be reproducible to others?

 

Genesis

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except there is no evidence of a Christian God....

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