ISIS Continues Destruction of Islamic Historical Sites

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  1. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    That is quite an assumption.


    The US has many students of antiquities that would resist such a thing.

    Additionally, religious art and antiquities in general have much to tell us about human psychology, as anyone that has read any of Carl Jung's original, detailed works knows. No one that understands such things would destroy works of such value.

    Finally, new findings in physics may make such artifacts and sites even more valuable and informative in the future.

    No person of true understanding would destroy such sites which reveal so much regarding the history of our species.

    This is a crime against our whole species that is being committed, not just some penny ante religion-specific act.

    Only followers of truly ignorant teachings would commit such an act.
     
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    The pilgrimage .. hajj.. is now up to 2 million visitors... They need shelter, food, clinics available to them.......

    Saudi Arabia is been very supportive of archeology since the 1970s and Salman especially so.. The women of the Al Nadha Society are also very active in historic preservation.

    Look at the board of Gatesonline.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/about/
     
  3. Merwen

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    That is quite an assumption.

    This is a crime against our whole species that is being committed, not just some penny ante religion-specific act.

    Religious art and antiquities in general have much to tell us about human psychology, as anyone that has read any of Carl Jung's original, detailed works knows. No one that understands the value of such things would destroy such works, and the US and other countries have many students of antiquities and psychology that would resist such a thing.

    No person of true understanding would destroy sites which reveal so much regarding the history of our species. Only followers of truly ignorant, narrow teachings would commit such an act. New findings in physics may make such artifacts and sites even more valuable and informative in the future.

    I will never be able to respect the people behind such barbarous
    destruction. They are not true believers. They are narrow minded fanatics that are incapable of respecting their God's Word or their God's Works through the actions of Man. They are incapable of seeing the worth of Creation except through their own narrow perception of reality, and they dare to destroy that which they neither value nor comprehend.

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    Humankind is one body. Maybe these fundamentalists are an ear or an eye, but they are chopping off a hand or a foot of humanity at large.

    What they are doing is execrable. The people they are killing are their God's works as well. How dare they kill them? How dare they? How dare they assume they and they alone are their God's instruments? And they are such cowards. They harm and kill the weak and defenseless, and commit genocide--unique works of Creation that are irreplaceable.

    For shame. For what they are doing, their God should curse them and all their future generations. They are heretics and blasphemers to their own God. There is no word to describe this evil, but their God may find a way to punish it.
     
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    not entirely true. as western christians are idol worshippers, its likely they would keeps such relics to "worship" :worship:

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    you seem to be getting a little upset. they are only rocks man!
     
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    Why do Leftists always try and change the subject when confronted with the death and destruction perpetrated by ISIS and other Muslim jihadists and Islamists?
     
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    It's going to be interesting to see if they tear down the pyramids once they are in power in Egypt.
     
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    I'd rather have him playing golf. He doesn't have the ability to find a solution to any world problem. In fact, he just makes thing worse. It's best if he stays on the golf course.
     
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    It is disgusting how anyone could possibly want to destroy our shared human history and artifacts. While destroying priceless relics of the past is abhorrent, is it that much different than some people wishing to cleanse history of all unwanted events and details in the pursuit of a goal to whitewash history in support of an ideal? How is this different in essence from efforts to pass legislation dictating that our high school students only learn good things about our history? It's the same mentality folks.
     
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    It would be interesting to see them die trying.
     
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    No war in Iraq = no ISIS. Bush's war. Bush's responsibility.
     
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    same subject, you just don't like that Christians have a history of doing this too, evil when either of them did this... and not just those two religions, even those against any religion have a history of doing this, just as evil when they do it too

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    No, it's not. The subject is: ISIS Continues Destruction of Islamic Historical Sites

    What atheists destroyed in the past is irrelevant, too.

    And you didn't answer my question:
    Why do Leftists always try and change the subject when confronted with the death and destruction perpetrated by ISIS and other Muslim jihadists and Islamists?
     
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    Right, 'cause the destruction of immaterial objects is more horrible then senseless mass decapitatations.
     
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    Thank you for the link, Margot--

    But, really, converting the home of the first wife of Mohammed into public toilets?
     
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    and when ISIS or any other group does this it's evil..... just the same.... why don't you just admit it's the same and we can move on

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    This is the kind of thing people without historical perspective say.
    It's the Middle East. Wars are endemic and life is cheap.

    But the relics of human civilization going back 3 millennium is the collective treasure of all humanity.
    I honestly don't care how many more or less die over there. I know that's "inhumane" to say, and I also know that, deep down, most people feel the same way.
    I do care if the world looses irreplaceable historical relics.
     
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    Oh, no, I have historical perspective. I just value human lives more than I do inanimate objects. I'm also more concerned with evil committed against humans than against objects that have no inherent value.
     
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    Peoples' lives have been mentioned in some of the posts above; apparently you didn't read that far.

    This site would be rather boring if that was all we discussed.

    The first resort of the unimaginative is to kill someone.
     
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    Delusional. ISIS and Islamic fundamentalist wants culture destroyed like this. Grasp a sliver of reality if you can and adjust the tin foil hat.
     
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    No one is denying that they haven't been mentioned.
     
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    I value both. But let's just be honest - we will all die. What remains of us, of our way of life and of our culture? Reminders of the past in form of historical sites. Every historical site that is destroyed in whatever kind of war is just terrible. It destroys parts of or even complete cultures.
     
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    Muslims have a current practice of this.
     
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    Today I heard on KNPR that this is all generating a thriving antiquities black market for ISIS.
    You know they wouldn't be doing this if we just gave them jobs....
     
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    so do Christians, just the Muslim fanatics are doing it more at this time in history
     
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    Exactly.

    Mortal men are by nature temporal.

    Artifacts though, these are supposed to stand for all time as the testament to those mortal men. There's not a single living Assyrian today, but their legacy lives on in the works the left behind. Destruction of this legacy through wanton vandalism is further proof that Islam is the cancer of the Middle East.
     

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