"I don't think the pilot's religion is necessarily what's we should be looking for."

Never going to happen.

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And that does what for anyone ?

 

shouldn't we do that regardless, even if say he is a Christian or an Atheist?

 

And .... what if he does ?

 

Not too many converts to Islam would retain the name "Lubitz".

 

It seems we might be jumping to conclusions.

The investigation has just started, I haven't heard the voice recording. There is zero report of the co-pilot communicating in anyway with the pilot who we assume couldn't get back into the cockpit. The only thing reported is that the co-pilot was breathing.

I can think of dozens of scenarios that could see the co-pilot not responsive or incapable of responding.

I thought this interesting as well:

Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin says pounding could be heard on the door during the final minutes as alarms sounded. He said the co-pilot "voluntarily" refused to open the door, and his breathing was normal throughout the final minutes of the flight.

What is "voluntarily" refusing mean anyway? Was there someone else there pressuring or interacting with the co-pilot?

It's too much too fast. This doesn't mean this story is untrue it just means it's too freaking early to swallow it intoto.


Cheers
Labour

 

then you follow the fact were they lead.. same as if he doesn't.....

 

Why not?

 

exactly, could be anything at this point, medical problems, suicidal pilot, terrorists, who knows

 

Missing the point. Figuring out his religion isn't going to prevent this from happening in the future.

 

The world is too PC.

 

Backtrack to possible ties to a group/cell/target, and eliminate it, to prevent another attempt by them to do it again.

I am pretty certain it is being looked into as part of the investigation along with a multitude of other information regarding the pilots background.
As it should be.

Investigators should remain tight lipped about anything found at this time as giving information to the public this early in an investigation may be a hindrance to said investigation.

Sad event and only one pass for the pilot I can think of and that's medical. ...stroke, heat attack, seizure etc...

 

I don’t know these new planes, you know on old planes there was a reason to not put plastic ties over control cables, now it’s all electronics and wires, and you know, if someone fracks that up… And if a circuit breaker pops and the copilot pushes it back in, and it pops, the pilot says push it in again, and it pops, and the pilot says, “hold it in,” you might totally fry every inch of cable from the RT in your nose wheel well to the bulkhead. Another time got a, “Radar does not sweep”; so I opened the radome and the antenna fell out on the ground; no safety wire. I really loved the time I caught the Samoan, I was told to train, because I was of a lower rank, it is called “equal opportunity program,” was sweeping the radar on the ground while a guy was servicing the liquid oxygen; may not be as good at cooking hotdogs as a F-14, but damn. When a new J model C-130 took a nose dive an inspector showed up that day to pencil whip a certification, I got pissed.

On an Old C-130 take off the shield between your old HF and the coupler, see what happens.

A lot of stuff might be coincidence, and the culprit some inspector; when we sent people there Airbus refused our blacks out of racism.

For all we know the guy could have had a brain aneurysm, and we might never be able to determine something like that.

Too much speculation. You know, crap happens too.

 

It reminds me of my time as a nuclear missile technician on a submarine back in the late 1970s. After years of very specialized high tech training that covered heating and cooling, hydraulics, rocketry, explosives, radiation, and electronics we would put our heads together and come up with viable ways to beat the security systems -- oh, and we were trained in security and fire and safety as well.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if one of us went off the rails in a specific manner and decided to put theory to practice. I have absolutely no doubt that flight personnel -- especially those with serious technical training, have also similarly analyzed their security protocols and procedures and have wondered . . . .

 

Actually I have just been spitballing logical scenarios and do not have my heart wedding to any specific one. But as of a very short time ago authorities have confirmed that it was a case of murder/suicide via passenger aircraft. So now it shifts over to WHY.

 

There's a growing right-wing movement in Europe. PC has only been mainstream for the last 50 years. It may be coming to an end.

 

There is an external keypad for entering an access code.
For security reason, the person inside the cabin can override the external code. This is to prevent a person who know the code to be forced to enter it by an hostage taker or terrorist.

 

The two terrorist who killed canadian soldiers a few month back in Quebec and Ottawa were both french canadian with french canadian, non islamic name.
You can't really tell anymore just by the skin color or the name who is or isn't a jihadist.

 

From the black box they say they can hear the older pilot lightly knocking the door first, then heavier blows are heared. I can barely imagine the panic of the pilot who is locked away from the cabin, unable to do anything untile the crash. At least the passengers were unaware and had little time to panick before the impact.

 

Yeah yeah but. It's mind boggling. Someone pointing an aircraft into the ground and killing 150 souls.

The only "report" we are using is some Inspector Clouseau claiming so.

It could all be true but A/C accidents are rarely so simply solved in 24 hours.

I want to see more evidence of a conclusive verifiable nature before I condemn a man's name to shame.

Cheers
Labour

 

And from that we deduce that the Co-Pilot intentionally cratered the A/C killing 150? Seems thin.

It could all be so, the Co-Pilot did it. But I need more.

Cheers
Labour

 

Or use an airplane to kill people.

 

I just am doubtful, but I've been surprised before.

 

That's a leap don't you think? Get bored with work so slam a plane full of passengers into the ground isn't all that uncommon? Yep, happens every day.

Cheers
Labour

 

That's pretty funny. It was an intentional act of murder whether he was a muslim or not. As of today we have as many as four such acts by muslins - if this guy was a muslim - and I'm having trouble thinking of any other person muslim or not that has done this.

In the USA we don't allow anyone to be alone in the cockpit so it can't happen here unless the islmo pig takes a gun into the cockpit.

We don't know that this guy wasn't talking to ISIS on the internet ever day. If I believed that I would wake up in a bed with 72 virgins I would go to Iraq and kill a few muslims but all they think that all they have to do is die trying to kill infidels in the name of the religion of peace.

good point.

There is such a code but it can be overridden from the cockpit so that the terrorists can't get the code from the person outside.

True, but not always.

The fault, whether or not this crazy bastard killed these people in the name of peace and tranquility or not is the deep decent into liberalism spiraling Europe into hell. We will close behind if we let 0bama serve the rest of his term as Destroyer in Chief.

Yet 0bama thinks that there is a way to persuade Iran not to use the nuclear weapons that they will surely have if we lift the pressure by one ounce.

Sure, we should find out if he liked the Clintons. They can't believe that there is a God but pretend to be christians.

Not many doesn't eliminate this guy.. Does it??