Whats Washington Doin in Central Asia Now?

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  1. Sly Lampost

    Sly Lampost New Member

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    US hegemony is definitely threatened by the Chinese-Russian new Silk Road project, not least because a new global economic structure will be in competition with the ageing and tainted Anglo-American banking architecture. But also important is that the new Silk Road is land-based and avoids US naval superiority.

    The obvious point weakness is to colour revolution/regime change those critical nations that connect the rail links between China and Europe and that looks to be where the US is now focusing its efforts.

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    My take is that any US actions would only delay at best, but not destroy, the longer term developments that the Silk Road will bring. And because of this, the US would be better advised to be more constructive and start building bridges rather than blowing them up. But history doesn't seem to be littered with examples of a wilting and waning elite demonstrating wisdom. They often seem to blink out in the company of internal dissolution and strife.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have changed from a competitive and creative nation, to one that sees gain only through sabotage and destruction...which doesn't bode well for us. All this is a threat to Russia, and they have been preparing themselves full force. When Putin said that they are prepared to fight a war on three fronts, they were telling the US we know what you're doing in the Caucasus and Central Asia. Washington is also back in the Balkans because of Turk Stream, so now we're all over. Bravo Washington, how much more harm can you reap.

    Besides the color revolution and Victoria coups, jihadists are appearing on Russia's bordering nations in the south. Russia is now training and arming men from Tajikistan among others. They are taking no chances, Ukraine was an eye opener for them and everyone.
     
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    Nice opinion piece but it seems more like propaganda than anything remotely like facts. But if things do go the route you propose and Russia and or China become the ones to dictate world economic policy what makes you believe they will do a better job? Basicly be careful what you wish for.
     
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    Meanwhile. At the Legion of Doom!
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither Russia nor China have a history of aggression...we do, and we haven't stopped.
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    Are you seriously going to say that?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crawdadr - It's not a propaganda piece, it's an in depth analysis of what is going on. I have come across bits and pieces of what is in the article for the past year. Putin wanted the EU to be part of the new silk roads and have it extend from Shanghai to Barcelona, but Washington put a stop to it with Kiev and the sanctions. Also China was desperate to have its goods traverse Asia to Europe rather than depend on sea routes because of the threat imposed on their ships by our Pacific fleet.

    Putin in the past year has signed over eighty agreements with China, and they weren't just for gas. Washington's enemy number one isn't Russia anymore, it's now China.
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    What "threat" was there on their ships by our pacific fleet???? That's straight horse (*)(*)(*)(*) and you know it.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean in-depth opinion. No facts present. For the sake of propaganda, one can claim anything and the useful idiots will respond.
     
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    Did not Russia invade Poland in 1939, didn't it invade Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Afghanistan, Georgia, Ukraine...?
     
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    No. It was liberating them from nazis duh
     
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    LOL, indeed I actually forgot Finland which totally peaceful Russia was liberating from the Banderaties in 1939 :D
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you talking about the Marxist system which imposed itself on Russia by the criminal Bolsheviks?
     
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    Oh oh Finland, dont forget Finland.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh so it was a mistake? Then they shouldn't have fought Nazi Germany? Who knows, it might have been a better world...right?
     
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    Only someone like you would try and twist that in such a moronic way. Clap clap clap. The Russia, who according to you has never been an aggressor, invaded with the intent of conquest all of those places either before or in league with nazi Germany. Since the em two were allies and all that.
     
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    Yes. And no.

    Having an alternative or a dual global financial/e economic structure can't be a bad thing imo. What is a bad thing is a global financial/economic system under the total domination and control of one country (currently the US). As we have seen that sort of domination throws up all sorts of crookedness, corruption, criminality and excesses which damage economies all over the world - and a banking elite that are untouchable and above the law.
     
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    I'm wondering just how "Covert" something could be when a Blog mag knows it?
     
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    I'm afraid the HS is on you.

    Please see comments by Stratfor's (the so called "Shadow CIA") CEO, George Friedman, who specifically states the the US navy - because of its global dominance - controls all the sea lanes and that this is a big problem for China's trade - and that the new railway silk road avoids that possibility.

    I have previously posted a number of Friedman interviews on this forum, but they can easily be found on Youtube also.
     
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    Really? No facts present? The article is brimming over with stated facts.

    But the author assumes his readership has a reasonable knowledge of foreign affairs plus an ability to fact check where necessary and doesn't provide links or footnotes (the latter are out of vogue these days anyway).
     
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    Jeanette in her earlier post said "Russia", not the Soviet Union.

    The whole thing about Finland and those other nations was that it happened 75 years ago during the Soviet era. And let's not forget that by 1942, the Soviet Union was an ally of the US and "Uncle Joe" Stalin, was a friend of US president Theodore Roosevelt who, by the time of the Yalta Conference, preferred him over Churchill.

    Ukraine was last year.
     
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    A reasonable question. I suppose a reasonable answer would be that in today's world, with so many conflicting groups, one party's secret is another party's news story.

    But I think in this instance the matter of the "mysterious" Ukrainian aircraft containing "diplomatic mail" and the earlier USAF "diplomatic cargo" story that was revealed by former Ukrainian security chief Alexander Yakimenko - plus the comments made by Nikolay Bordyuzha - point to the answer. It's covert until opposing intelligence agencies go public.
     
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    You seem to think that links to other opinion pieces makes fact.
     
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    Personally....I find it more likely to be an imaginative propaganda piece developed by imaginative manipulation of data and moderate conspiracy theory mentality by someone likely paid to do so.

    But, that's just me.
     
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    Very deceitful, but a nice try all the same. Except for the fact that I think nothing of the sort.

    What I do think is that links to other factual stories provide the reader with a body of knowledge from which they may form their own judgements.

    But it is evident to me that you don't understand - or wish to understand - the difference. For you an opinion is a fact - unless it conflicts with your worldview, in which case it is just an opinion to be summarily disregarded. Let's hope that you never get to me selected for jury service.
     

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