What can Team Hillary do to excite the youth and black vote in 2016?

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, they vote by party, not by race.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a 90% White Party that votes overwhelmingly for White candidates votes by party, reflecting, overwhelmingly, its racial homogeneity.

    Since the Democratic Party is far more diverse, it reflects America's diversity when it also votes by party.
     
  3. Reality

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    Your metaphor fails, because 90% of whites don't vote party line pub.
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Completely dishonestly assuming that there are as many

    The ones that are apparently racist pretend that Black Americans must think that all Democratic presidential nominees since 1936 have been Black.

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    Kerry received 88% of the vote of Black Americans in 2004, Gore 90% in 2000, Obama 93% in 2012.


    By their "thinking" Hillary Clinton will prove to be Black as well, of course:

    While white Democrats view Mrs. Clinton favorably, minority voters support her at near-swooning levels.


    Of course, Black Americans, as a demographic, vote in their perceived self-interest as much as Hispanic and Asian Americans, and White Americans - the latter alone favouring Republicans - as do older Americans.[/QUOTE]

    http://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/did-race-win-the-election-for-obama-487/

    wrong.
     
  5. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL Is a good example in how Gore lost? That one was rigged, by republicans. When one man receives the popular vote but still loses, well, there is a whole lotta rigging going on.

    But seriously, the oligarchs do not care which team wins, for Clinton, or anyone who wins the repub primary are already owned by these billionaires. So their bought politician always ends up in the oval office. The last one was Obama, who raised more from the corporate donors than the republican did. So, the game is rigged, but not how you think.

    The funny thing is, is that republican voters, are not smart enough to catch on.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    You really think abortion will be the deciding factor?
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

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    I did mot employ any metaphors.

    Republicans, who are 90% White vote, overwhelmingly, for White candidates.

    Democrats are far more racially diverse, and vote accordingly.
     
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    and the black population votes on average 90% partyline democrat.
    Whereas the white population is split fairly evenly between R/D/and other.
     
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    Touch down in Colorado, roll a fattie, and inhale.
     
  10. Reality

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    that would mean that psycho would have to relax. Not going to happen.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    Yes, and some in the GOP recognize their problem in not appealing to minorities.

    As America's diversity increases, so does the existential challenge to such a racially homogeneous party:
     
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    Yup that's why I'm a Paul fan. First pub candidate I've ever talked to my friends who are minorities about and not gotten laughed at. When I explained his positions and his actions so far I got a "no (*)(*)(*)(*)?" and they actually looked it up and came and talked to me about it later.

    I feel that the more a group consistently votes for the same party in overwhelming numbers the less grease they get.
     
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    Randy's initiatives in acknowledging the perspective of minorities anticipates the inevitable progress in the GOP as an existential necessity.

    I leave it to every American to decide which party serves him or her better to make that determination for themselves. Both parties must try to make their case to them.
     
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    Hillary is in a very strong position to win the black vote, the woman's vote and the young vote. Look at the latest favorable/unfavorable ratings from the just released CNN poll.
    Hillary's national favorable rating is 46% unfavorable 50%. But among non-whites it is 65% approval 31% disapproval and if CNN had broke it down further into Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and the like, which they didn't. You could rest assured her favorable ratings among blacks would be at least 85%.

    Among women her favorable rating is 54% unfavorable 42% and in the 18-35 age group it is 55% favorable, 38% unfavorable. These are her strongest groups.

    Hillary is the strongest in the Northeast at 57%, weakest in the Midwest and West at 42%. That really surprised me as I thought she would be the weakest in the south, there she is at 46% which is her national average.

    Hillary is at 55% approval among urban voters, 47% suburban and only 34% Rural.

    All of this means she is a force to be reckoned with. But she is weak among independent voters which give her a 41% favorable rating vs. 54% unfavorable. This is her Achilles Heel. But with a larger base vote, Hillary and the Democrats only have to get around 48% of the independent vote to win the popular vote. So much depends on whom the Republicans nominate, they must nominate someone who can garner around 53-54% of the independent vote in order to win in 2016.

    This remains to be seen.

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/06/01/2016.poll.pdf
     
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    Agreed. It stands to reason though that if a large group votes 90% party line for you, and one election does not, the election after that the party will be coming to you saying "how can I earn your vote" instead of snickering and casting asparagus (sic) ala LBJ
     
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    What can Team Hillary do to excite the youth and black vote in 2016?

    Renounce her citizenship, payback the hundreds of millions the Clinton Foundation obtained nefariously, leave the country and never enter politics again.
     
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    I concur, sadly. She's a woman, and she's a dem
     
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    Maybe not smart enough in your mind, but which party is experiencing a strong grassroots push to clean up the mess by electing ethical representatives? Or do you think folks identifying with the Tea Party vote Democrat?

    Considering Hillary is their fav for president, I think its obvious Dems are all about biz as usual. You should update your negative opinion based on the results of the last two midterms. Unless it's not really an opinion but your way of rationalizing your vote for Barack Obama. ;)
     
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    It stands to reason that if any demographic group consistently votes for you you to the tune of 90% or so, you must be doing something, in their estimation, to earn their support.

    Older White Southern males without a college degree overwhelmingly vote Republican as of late. As a group, the GOP is perceived as supporting their self-interests.
     
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    Paranoia is not a ticket to winning elections, of course, but it is a surefire way for those alienated from America to insure they can bellwhinge to their heart's content in the long run.

    Theirs is a world in which they are constantly hoodwinked by dummies.
     
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    It is a great excuse for losing also.....
     
  22. Reality

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    And they've done what? Put up a bunch of stop gap welfare measures that exacerbate the underlying issue ? Pass
     
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    Anyone can gripe about how others vote and offer whatever excuses they contrive for doing so.

    The American electorate still decides based upon whatever diverse comparative criteria are applied.

    At this stage, they prefer Clinton, but there is plenty of time for the GOP to find a viable alternative. Randy Paul is running a smart campaign, but I seriously doubt that the party bosses would allow his nomination.

    It would be surprising if younger voters, female voters, Black voters, Hispanic voters, Asian voters, and most voters in the best-educated states didn't vote for her.

    It would be surprising if older, male Southerners did.
     
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    Hmm seems there was a female nominated for VP a few years ago. How many women have the Democrats nominated since then?
     
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    So you don't know how we elect Presidents then. There is no nationwide popular vote for President. The States elect the President and VP and you have no Constitutional right to cast a vote for President or VP.

    So what "rigging" is going on?

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    And how exactly would they prevent it?

    As a male Southerner, why should I? What is it she is running on that would attract my vote? As a white male, a Southern white male, what is she offering me that would make me consider a vote for her?
     

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