Why the Confederate flag still flies in South Carolina

wouldn't this be great... this guys evil actions be the thing that causes something good that could not of been accomplished otherwise

time for our government to stop flying the Confederate Flag

 

Is that a barely hidden threat of more violence? I hope not!

 

How so? How does the Confederate Battle Flag, not the Flag of the confederacy equate to a Nazi Flag. I know liberals are insane but I'd love to hear this delusion.

 

people can waive the Confederate Flag all they want, I may not agree with it, but that is ok, the issue is the government doing it

 

Your personal use of a flag on your property or your person is your business and your right, that is not the issue here.

 

There's so much fail in this post that I'm not sure where to start. So I'll just start at the bullet points.

#1. The EXACT same thing occurred during a period where the American flag was flying when these EXACT same things were done to the Indians. Except you can add biological warfare and genocide to that list. So why should we not be able to fly the confederate flag but we can fly the American one? I know Indians who find the American flag to be EXCEEDINGLY offensive for what was done to them under its reign.

#2. #3 #4 and #5 show a gross ignorance to what occurred. You do realize that it was the CONFEDERATES who were defending the constitution right? The CONFEDERATES were the ones who were following what the constitution said. The north was ignoring the constitution, attempting to unilaterally change it while not following the constitutional process and was denying people their rights under that constitution.

The ones who committed treason were the north. The SCOTUS even ruled that their actions were unconstitutional and the north CONTINUED to do them anyway.

Who was attempting to change the constitution ILLEGALLY and who was attempting to defend it?

 

The confederate flag represents hate. Every home adorned with that flag that I have ever entered has hate spewing out of it. And I have been in dozens and dozens of those homes. Every one, no exceptions, hate.

 

nope, just don't want the gov raising the flag, if you want to raise it in your yard, have at it

 

You should indulge in a bit of the history of the flag for a better perspective. That battle thingy is more of a Trojan Horse than anything else...

The article goes way more in depth and worth reading.

 

Probably couldn't even pay Mexico to take the south these days. The Confederate flag represents everything that is wrong with America. A group that wants "their country back", wants to go back to a time of slavery, hatred, fear, etc. Bring it down, that's symbolism that will go a long way. And if it causes these guys to retaliate or display it even more, so be it. If people want to display their intolerance and bigotry, that's their right. But it should not be used on public land. They should have the families of the victims take part in bringing any confederate flag down. Give them some hope that race relations will be taken seriously as it's obvious there is a level of hatred coming from the south that is not found in the north.

 

I'm still waiting for you to tell me why the confederate flag should not be flown but the American flag should given the atrocities that occurred to the native Americans under it.

 

You too.

 

That's easy. It has nothing to do with morality or even what it represents to the effect being discussed. It is just because we are a Nation, and the American flag is the flag that represents that Nation.

The Confederacy was in opposition to this and lost.

It is absolutely fine for an individual to fly the confederate flag. Just as it's fine for an individual to fly the Union Jack or hang a picture of King George.

Just not for any part of federal or state Government.

 

People don't share your views on what the two flags symbolize. People understand the USA did some atrocious things with the flag flying, but they also understand that eventually progressive views won out and intolerance stopped and the flag could be revered by all, not just a certain group of people who want the country to go back to times of bigotry and racism.

 

The Battle Flag was designed and used because it could be seen more clearly through the haze produced by using black powder in the firearms of the day and was not easily mistaken for Federal flags. Anything else is just liberal fantasy.

 

#takeitdownSC

 

Then NO other flags should be flown according to that logic. The government buildings shouldn't fly rainbow flags or things of that nature.

The confederate flag was not a symbol of a people who fought against our country. It's the symbol of a group of people who attempted to stop a government from unilaterally and unconstitutionally changing the constitution.

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Awwww hell. He's also wearing a golds gym shirt. We need to shut all golds gyms down and ban weightlifting.

 

Believe it or not, there are some lessons from war that I think apply to our handling of the type of hate espoused by Roof.

I have talked to many of the racists I know since this event. And many of them really do think a race war is inevitable. It reminds me of Clausewitz in On War, where he explains that a war is never really over. The losers who intend to carry on the fight will wait and wait and wait until the day they can renew the fighting for their cause.

The great general, or leader, or government, will seek to eliminate any hope of renewed conflict. The future must not seem to offer opportunity for renewed resistance for the defeated forces. I think the flying of this confederate flag on state or federal grounds inspires hope in those that want a renewed conflict in the South. We must take it down.

We must do everything possible to show people like Dylan Roof that their mission to renew the fight is futile. It will never happen. I like the idea of a black white black white chain of people, hand in hand. Maybe we can get millions to do it (if I remember right, Taiwan got enough people holding hands to spread across the whole island in defiance of China). It sounds corny, but it is not. It does have an impact on those that are waiting in the swamps, hoping for the day that fighting is renewed. We must show them that this race war is never going to happen. We couldn't do it in Iraq, but by God, we can do it in my own damn country!

 

Lol so now you're arguing that it doesn't matter what ACTUALLY happened as long as progressives support the flag then it's now okay? Snotloller (*)(*)(*)(*) of here

 

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There is no federal law that prohibits a local authority from publicly erecting monuments or displaying artifacts.

 

It represents to blacks EXACTLY what the article I linked explained. Your acceptance or denial of the facts is your choice, but no one was speaking about the design aspect so what does that have to do with anything?

 

No, you're just making things up now and playing word games. The fact you've already admitted you are a racist and now you are defending the Confederate flag doesn't bode well for people's impression, lol.

 

It's part of our culture. I could care less what anyone else thinks Tough. Get over it. The nanny state can only get so far. When the Beltway snipers went on their racist killing spree did Whites try to ban the NAACP, Kwanza or African Studies? Gimme a break.

 

It's not part of ours, so we can push to get it taken down from government buildings. The fact it's gone on this long and they still fly it, is rather embarrassing for the country. Like Obama says, it belongs in a museum.

 

I'm sure there are some people who find facts funny.