Why isn't repbulican congress fixing immigration?

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    for all the whinging about how Obama is destroying America by his "open border" policy which letting a tsunami of illegal immigrants into the country and his unconstitutional attempts to not uphold the law and let them stay here, it seems the republican congress isn't up to the task of actually addressing the issue with immigration reform.

    I recall the rather emphatic declaration by conservatives after the past election that "we are taking back our country" and that all kinds of changes and reversals of Obama's actions would take place.

    Who knew that "taking back our country" was double speak for continuing to fear monger and whine without lifting a finger to enact comprehensive reform legislation.

    It was all just hot air and political opportunism.
     
  2. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    If the Republican Congress were to address immigration issues they would be killing their number one tool for getting out the base to vote.
    They have every political reason NOT to address the issue.
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    The Republicans in the House just voted to yank all Federal funding to sanctuary cities. Does that mean this thread just failed?
     
  4. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    THAT'S the Republican solution?
    Well, start the parade - that should totally solve the whole illegal immigration problem!
    And here we so worried - problem solved!

    Go Republicans!
     
  5. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it doesn't, unless you think that opportunistic bandaids are the best way to fix a leaking boat?
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are already laws against illegal immigration, no need to enact more laws for Obama to ignore and there's no compelling reason to discuss immigration reform. Thread fail. Mexico strictly enforces it's immigration laws.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    They are very, very expensive... and they do nothing to help with the problem.

    What is good about not being able to ask someone about their legal status ?

    And this....

    Lopez-Sanchez has been charged with murder for the apparently random attack. According to authorities, he had been arrested in San Francisco, considered a sanctuary city, just before the shooting but was not held by police to be turned over to Immigration & Customs Enforcement officials upon his release from jail.

    "Not held by police"... because they couldn't hold his very illegal status against him.

    Brilliant.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually if the administration would just enforce the laws on the books, almost of the immigrations problems would be solved.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Exactly correct. This and other issues are kept alive by both parties for political reasons.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell me what the republicans could actually do that Obama would sign into law?

    Its beyond pointless to address the issue now with a liberal in the WH.

    Seems the left tends to forget that.
     
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    Obama would veto anything the Republicans passed and you know it. We must keep a running tally on everything that the Republicans have tried to do and Big O said no. Americans like to see the obstructionism pointed out before they vote. Americans are sick and tired of the stale Obama Show. And that usually means suffering at the polls. Remember how Obama cost you the Senate? I think it will be WORSE. When are Libs going to open their eyes and see that they made a HUGE error in judgment? This guy is really really bad... What else can he do to convince them that he is not looking out for them or me? Only HIMSELF...
     
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    Boehner has had a bill on his desk for about two years now. That could be a starting point.

    Deporting everyone is unrealistic, and we should get that out of our heads. Legalizing those that have been here the longest makes sense to me. What to do with the others is up for debate. Employer verification is the way to go in stopping the flow, but I wonder if anyone really has the guts to implement such a system.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What starting point are you talking about? Obama will not negotiate and we know that from the 300 plus bills that the House sent to Harry Reid, which were starting points, but he refused to even discuss compromises and just let them sit. There is absolutely nothing the conservatives could do short of giving Obama everything he wants that would possible ever get passed.
     
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    I'm talking about the bi-partisan immigration bill passed by the Senate.
     
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    If you blame only the dems or you blame only the repubs, you are falling for a lie. Both parties are to blame for our open border. And you can throw in every president for the past 50 years. No matter who gets elected, who has the power, we continue to be invaded with illegals from Mexico. Don't fall for the political scam blaming everyone else. Pure and simple, it's all the people in Washington D.C.
     
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    Because anyone with a brain knows the GOP wants illegal labor who will work on the cheap for their business constituents, in the same way they want to give corporations slave labor by allowing them to offshore American jobs. LOL.

    You could clean up this problem with illegal immigration almost overnight. Make hiring an illegal a felony, and then provide the public with a toll free number to call to turn in these lawbreaking employers. Then most will self deport, as they did with the housing crash when their construction jobs went away. So the GOP has no intention of stopping illegal immigration, which is why they are trying to castrate trump, for he might actually address it.

    The reason the GOP will not stop it is because their campaign donators want cheap labor so not as to hire American, for they are greedy. The reason they will not offer a path to citizenship that is reasonable, is because then they would be americans an expect to be paid more.
     
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    Reagan gave 3 million illegals amnesty.
    Over 8 1/2 million illegals have crossed into the US BEFORE Obama took office.

    Roses do not grow from conservative butts on the immigration problem.
     
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    Yep, it's the neoliberalism that Reagan brought back with the GOP, and which democrats have agreed with, once they stopped representing working people. Like what they call free trade, it's the scheme to send most of the income to the top dogs, by rushing to the bottom in wages, which means more income for the big donors to campaigns, and of course the GOP believe only the top dogs should prosper by their work, and no one else should.
     
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    Yes like repealing Obamacare?

    As for obstructionism, it is always amusing when conservatives project so unashamedly.

    As for being really bad, Obama has a pretty impressive list of accomplishments despite republican's vehement opposition. True, he also has a list of things he screwed up, but on balance, history will remember him as one of the better ones.
     
  20. Professor Peabody

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    I believe Obama promised to veto anything the put in front of him. Alas we will have to wait till 2017 when the Republicans no longer have to worry about Democrat obstructionism.
     
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    The only thing Republicans have to worry about is Republican obstructionism. They can't even get a bill out of conference because their own party members can't agree.
    Even if Romney was President, there would be no immigration reform.
     
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    Reagan believed the Democrats when they promised to secure the border and step up interior enforcement, they lied as usual. That's why we insist on securing the border FIRST before addressing those already here.
     
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    neither party want's it solved !! and I will believe Democrat obstructionism will not be the problem when the (R)'s do nothing once again, both parties need to fix the problem as a whole. Stop the flow, Fix immigration visa's and forget about rounding up the illegals that are here (except the criminals) .
     
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    We need "Enforcement Reform", not amnesty.
     
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    There you go blaming the GOP for "something". You are still falling for the politicians scam. They work in unison while blaming the other party. Start thinking for yourself and ignore the pointing fingers.
     

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