Syria crisis: US concern over Russia 'military build-up'

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  1. litwin

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    they denied to having solders in Ukraine too

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    1 question> what do you knew about mr kiselev?
     
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    Really. The U.S. Is concern about Russia's military build up? Have you seen all the bases across the Middle East owned by the U.S.?
     
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    does "Russia" capable to develop those countries where its stationed?
     
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    Like the way America is helping develop Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan Syria, Etc.? Like how America is keeping all these countries stable and secure for peaceful? Not backing rebels or arming Al Qaeda? Do you mean how America isn't killing innocent people in any of these countries? Never bombing weddings or killing 11 policemen. Or killing hundreds of innocent children in a month or so. Do you wish to compare how many innocent people Russia killed over the last ten years compared to America's death rate in the Middle East?
     
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    why did you name only the examples, whats about Baltics, Japan, west europe, SK, etc?
     
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    :icon_jawdrop:

    It was in a previous century a different state.

    BTW Russia in not intervening. Russia helps a legitimate power of independent state which US warmongers failed to break with the help of ISIS... I see no problem if there is no filtering between good rebels fighting Assad and bad rebels. Enough to play with nations if it is toys of spoilt kids from the White House!
     
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    QUESTION WAS NOT how/when they appeared in social networks. QUESTION is where they been taking and who those guys : for rest of the world 95% of human population answer is clear...


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    Japan, Korea and Western Europe didn't feel that bad in a period between Columbus and Roosvelt. The achievements of these nations is not that fair to write to the US responsibilty. Hard-working japanese and modest responsible koreans, educated and inventive germans did much more for their countries than the americans. Which is fair. The example of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya is much better illustrative of what americans do the countries when the natives don't have virtues rather than desire to 'be democratic'. The same refers to Ukraine and Baltic countries. There is no progress and future for the nations which refused to be themselves.
     
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    I don't care what others think. If 95% of population will decide to be gay it will not be an argument for me to lose my ground. You post a number of pictures, which prove nothing. I tell you that without the reliable supply there cannot be any serious build-up of any state anywhere. It's a fact. You can't come to the battlefield and with an excuse that there was no delivery of bullets pause the war.

    Russia has its logistics base in Syria. From time to time it accepts russian warships for refuelling and crew rest. Syria has a number of russian people, who can make photos there the way they find amusing. I also believe that a number of ethnic russians or even citizens of Russia are fighting american pawns at their own risk defending syrian state and people. I wouldn't deny a possibility that Russia delivers to Syria a number of weapons and maybe instructors. I see nothing bad in it, because Syria opposes extremely dangerous beings, which are hardly recognised as people. Any help to Syria and every organised group fighting ISIS is good in my viewpoint. Even when the US makes another show screening an airstrike at something which will never stop the war or even make the life of ISIS more complicated I don't object.

    This media hysteria about 'russian build up' is entirely political. The sense of it is that Sweden spent 2 million euros to find a ghost of russian micro-submarine and found nothing but a WWI sub "Som" made in the US... The aim of it is economic sanctions, spread of purchase of american weaponry to its NATO satellites and maybe care for the best toy of ISIS performing the US policy in the ME region at the cost of the lives of theirs and their kind.

    I wish that there could be a serious build up in Syria and russians could tear this ISIS apart which will permit the refuges to stay home and work for their countries in a much safer world. But unfortunately for the moment such a build up is just impossible. The region is cut from Russia. All Russia can is deliveries, limited political and economic support of Syria and that is pretty much it.
     
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    do they take a part in fighting?
     
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    They found a small sub with Russian letters in the waters of Sweden, and by the looks of it hasn't been there for long.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/27/sweden-wreckage-russian-submarine



    Anyways. It is a problem for the US and some other countries. The thing is apparently that your invading a country when you enter it with your war machines uninvited. I think it is safe to say them Russians are invited by Assad. The US and a couple of other countries have definitely not asked to be invited, so they are invaders. That label has scared a heck of a lot of countries to not join the US in Syria and just limit their things to Iraq. I think even the UK is just doing things in Iraq for that reason. Syria got the legal right to call them invasions an act of war and attack the invaders all the way to the white house out of self defense. And Russia is now through Syria receiving those rights.


    I'm not saying Russia will attack the US.
    This is about RIGHTS,... who got the RIGHT to do so.
    And Russia most certainly got every right to do what it pleases to American soldiers flying over Syria.
    This aint like Ukraine where Russia sneaks around.
     
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    Sounds to me like Russia should be taking in the Syrian refugees.
     
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    You don't get it.
    Russia supports Assad. Some Syrians support Assad. A lot of them do not support Assad and are part of the Kurdish army, the free Syrian Army and who knows what else fighting against ISIS and Assad. I doubt they are welcome in Russia.
     
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    even Uzbeks left Muscovy ...situation there is terrible

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/09/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-idUSKCN0R91TA20150909

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    they are NOT...
     
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    Looking for example more in this century maybe.
     
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    Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Georgia, need more?
     
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    Isn't turkey fighting in Syria too? Tell me why shouldn't the Russians fight Isis
     
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    sorry, i did not get your question right come again ...

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    in the hands of AQ from today, look like the Muscovites dont help much to Assadists...
     
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    simply cos they have the evil agenda ...Muscovites have enormous problem back home, they ´d fix own &hitt first
     
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    whats about east Europe, Georgia ? do you (Muscovy) has such examples? probably the sovok´s heaven - Abkhazia?) or a fresh example Lugandia?
     
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    Doesn't America have major problems at home? Yet we are all over the Middle East
     
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    oh please dont even try to compare gas -station Muscovy with USA ... do you know that the all Musovites lost at least 50% of all what they have this year? what ´d you say if it ´d happened to you?
     
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    Its good to see these rumours about Russia and fighting against Isis in Syria. It brings to surface that the Western powers are supporting Isis, I liked president Bush better with his policy that you are with us or you are against us.
    Anyone against Russia fighting Isis is pro Isis.
    Maybe Russia can defeat Isis something the US and allies cannot do. Some Americans think they have a great and strong army that can defeat Russia but I see the Americans waging war on Isis for one year and nothing is gained so Americans should be queiet about beating the Russian army if they cannot even beat Isis.
    The US and allies are not fighting Isis but supporting them it seems. The Turks are bombing the Kurds who did put up a fight against Isis, western politicians only blame Assad who is fighting Isis.
    Saudi Arabia helped with 4 fighter jets but when something happened in Jemen the immediately sent over 150 planes and ground army with other countries.
    We the people should support anybody fighting Isis and if you don't then you are not against Isis.
     
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    more is here
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/05/exposing-russia-s-secret-army-in-syria.html

    and
    from Kiselev dirty media urinal

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150910/1026805286.html#ixzz3lKamCDhp
     

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