How do we prevent these mass shootings?

There were many school shootings in the period 1984-1997.

 

It's not our fault that sticking your tongue out at someone is in the same category as stabbing them.

In fact it makes it pretty easy to hide actual crime numbers doesn't it.

Even when your numbers are distilled down, it is still roughly twice what our violent crime is.

 

Where do you get that from (in bold)?

 

From your own crime reporting.

Violence against the person with injury, robbery, and serious sexual crime is about 775 per 100k, which is twice that of the US.

 

Please post sources of figures of both countries. Government sources only please as it has already been shown that the daily mail report lazy journalism

 

Xanex, Wellbutrin, Prozac, ritalin, the major offenders. A few of those people had been prescribed all of those followed by another list of more obscure psychoactive drugs after those failed.

They were all legally obtained until it was realized they were abusing them, then illicit markets were tapped. In some cases they had multiple physicians prescribing and were combining and selling excess to others creating illicit markets.

The first choice for mental health care logically needs to be treatment of the unconscious mind by language effecting instinctual interpretation and responses to stimuli.

 

Electronic medical record keeping in the US makes monitoring controlled substances pretty easy and standard.

 

http://www.thebody.com/content/art4989.html

"Psychoactive drugs don't affect the underlying causes of these disorders, but they can provide symptomatic relief to allow people to live more normal lives.

Most of the drugs covered in this section have numerous effects on the nervous system, but each is usually reserved to treat one of the following conditions: anxiety, depression, insomnia, psychosis, or mania."

Okay, government can watch the flow of legal drugs. Not surprising, but not comprehensive to the final logic of my post.

Which CAN effect the underlying causes.

My point is made.

Psychology and psychiatry are deeply negligent. Not because they want to be, but because a "higher power" government and society in general, largely controlled by the church, control them.

 

I don't know. Perhaps if you believe so, you can convince us.

 

You're out there. No point in further dialogue.

 

No point on dialogue upon "How to prevent mass murders", but dialogue upon activism for effective mental health care is actually the only responsible dialogue we can engage in, no matter how far "out there" you think I am, or such activism is.

That activism comes down to demand for treatment direct to the unconscious mind

 

We need a better and more thorough background check system and universal background checks for all handguns. This will reduce mass shootings and gun crimes

 

Explain precisely what you mean when you use the term thorough when describing background checks.

Explain precisely how universal background checks would do anything to prevent future mass shootings, when the latest batch of mass murderers possessed no disqualifying records, and thus could not be denied a firearms purchase.

 

Exactly, but ronstar will not be accountable to reason or he would have started posting about what activism is needed to compel effective mental health care.

 

background checks need to check the following:

if someone has been convicted of a crime.

if someone has a warrant for their arrest.

if somoene has been court martialled.

if someone has ever been in a mental institution.

if someone has ever had a restraining order placed against them.

if someone has ever been on prescription drugs for schizophrenia or bi-polar disorder.

and they need to NOT let the sale go through jiust because the check is inconclusive after 72 hours.

 

Ok, cite them.. They weren't big enough to be a major story... I don't recall any - at least not in the US.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

Yeah - that works

NOT!!!

It this is such an effective tool then give me the name of this intervention as well as links to the research supporting it's use

 

Guns + conspiracy theory

Great combination America .....................

 

I don't recall any of those shootings being big stories - I never heard of any of them (then again we didn't have the internet or the internet was in its infancy when I was in school) , and when I was in school - school shootings weren't a fear or an issue..

 

There doesn't have to be a logical REASON for a mentally ill person to commit mass murder. We need to look into EXACTLY what caused these young men to commit mass murder. I have read that most of them were under psychiatric care. I wonder about SSRI drugs...especially IF these young men stopped taking them without withdrawing properly.

 

I am asking if there could be some correlation. Seems odd...

 

Ah yes, it's Obama's fault! Of course! Look, you've had mass shootings under every president in your history-irrespective of their political colour-and they appear to be getting more commonplace. And those are just the widely reported cases: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/GDContent/mass-killings/index.html#frequency

 

You are absolutely right. They are becoming more commonplace under Obama. He has created a climate of hate in this country. Don't be fooled. His seemingly uplifting mantra of hope and change which people assumed was positive, is really nothing more than divide and conquer. He makes it his mission to pit groups against one another. He pits cops against Blacks; whites against Blacks; Christians against Muslims; gays against heterosexuals/Christians; Republicans against Democrats. He calls his groups names and encourages his favored groups to rise against their enemies. Visitors to the White House have included Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayres, Louis Farrakhan, Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter and other unsavories. Is it any wonder that people are angry? You can't say anything without being labeled racist or antigay or some other derogatory term. Look at the hate the Libs have on this forum and the names they call people. Obama has done this and there are many many examples throughout his regime. He is a VERY divisive president who acts immature and lies and his administration has been nothing but corrupt.

 

I can just as easily give you a list of unsavoury types who have visited the White House under Republican administrations. However I agree that Obama has been less than effective as POTUS.