Italian police: Muslim migrants threw Christians overboard

(*)(*)(*)(*)ing "A" for putting two and two together, Alexa. But of course they were not terrorists, just your average, law abiding, Muhammed following good Muslims.

 

No. The first thought that came to mind was to read the whole article, which you clearly didn't do.

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So, when a non-Muslim commits a criminal act or hate crime, it's psychological, but if a Muslim does it, it's because of their religion. I will wait until the interrogation of the attackers is done with before concluding that they were terrorists or extremists. One thing is for sure: they are criminals.

 

No it's not a tragedy, it's simple murder and it's a hate crime based on religion. It's also shining sunlight on the BS myth that is supposedly the separation between moderate good hard working Muslims who are "peaceful" and extremists Muslims who the West does not consider part of Islam. That separation is slowly being eroded and fading away with brutal murders such as this.

 

As a rule of thumb, when a non-Muslim commits a criminal act or a hate crime, it's a criminal act or a hate crime. When a Muslim does it, it's a criminal act or a hate crime, most often than not commited in accordance with guidelines of Qu'ran and with blessings of their Deity. Why do you think, Muslims universally scream Allahu Akbar while committing unspeakable crimes against humanity?

I was not present on that boat but can say with a degree of certainty there were praises to Allah uttered while these Christians were pushed overboard.

 

Islam forbids wanton murder of innocents regardless of what they scream.

Doesn't matter at all. What mattered is that they killed those Christians. I don't think the victims or their families could care less about their motives, even if it was committed in the name of democracy.

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The same can be said of the KKK and the American army when they invaded Iraq.

 

Ah yes, I was waiting for you to start quoting Qu'ran, you all do that. Qu'ran is unique in a way that in it, one can always find what one is looking for for one Qu'ran section always contradicts another Qu'ran section.

Every hideous crime against humanity performed by Muslims is always done with Qu'ran in hand while uttering Allahu Akbar. Do not quote Qu'ran to me, for Muslims are guided by it.

 

There is always a context for the verses in the Koran, and if you do study the Koran in earnest, you'll realize there is no contradiction.

Surrrrre... like every Christian who commits a crime is guided by their Bible. A Muslim is not an embodiment of his book more than he or she is an embodiment of their psychosocial experiences. The same rule applies to every human. Do not apply double standards here. It'll make your argument less convincing.

 

Neither do most Muslims-although judging from many commentators on this forum they seem to believe that all 1.7 billion of them are crazed jihadists.

 

Wonder all you want, it does not change the brutality or perception of Muslims either way. I keep hearing that this type of action does not represent all Muslims, No kidding and DUH. I do not care if it represents .001 %, I am not willing to risk my life or those of people I love on the chance they all want to play cards and eat sushi.

Simply put...Muslims are unsafe to me, any of them. This not a form of bigotry, it is self preservation and intelligent observation.

 

Hmm, shall we take a look at the Bible and the uncomfortable parts of the Old Testament which Christians don't like to be reminded of? Didn't Hitler's army go to war with "Gott Mit Uns" on their belt buckles as they set about slaughtering millions? That's the Christian god, by the way...

 

There is as I said no reason to believe they were terrorists. Look if someone is intending of coming to Europe on an overcrowded boat to engage in acts of terrorism they would hardly make themselves known by murder on the way. It is not a likely scenario. However where they come from has a long history of Christian/Muslim animosity. Christians in these areas also engage in female genital mutilation. Christians have been involved in massacres against Muslims, that is the kind of Muslim you do not know exists who most of them are. I am off out now - someone else said proof was needed. How sad that the US has such media censure that it does not show this on their news as we here every now and then.

Now we all know that various Islamist groups are acting in a barbaric manner. However this has had the result of Christians at times taking it out on the non Islamist barbaric Muslims and massacring them. Here is one example.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/10/central-african-republic-christian-militias-revenge

It ought to be obvious from this that there is frequently animosity between Christians and Muslims from Africa. We are told the Christians were thrown overboard after a fight. Like I said we need to find out what the fight was about. Being in a boat which was only fit for about half the people on it may also have been a contributing factor - I am assuming this boat is like the others.

Hence unless you are a bigot there is no reason to believe that the Muslims were terrorists trying to get to Europe to terrorise Europe as the OP suggested. If there was that will come out in the trial but I do not think on the information we have that there is any reason to believe that just now.

....apart from the fact as has been said many times, any self respecting terrorist would choose a safer way to travel.

 

Historically the KKK did terrorize and murder based on race - but a war does not equate to murder, nor hate crimes. Sorry, you over extended on that second one.

 

Did not you just equated Nazis with Muslms? Touché...

 

Same behavior as cuckoo birds. Kick the others out of the nest, so the provider only feeds them.

 

Try and use some common sense and logic....first of all why were all the victims Christian if religion played no role? Your 'if's' , 'possiblys' and 'most likelys' will not wash...stick with the known facts. You are simply trying to construct a narrative that fits your agenda....aka being willing to try and make up stuff to support your agenda. As has been pointed out several times already............what this incident indicates more than anything else is the natural proclivity of muslims to strike out at Christians when things do not go the way they want or when things get tough....yet naive Christians want these sorts of people to live amongst them? All these folks who are in favor of importing muslims should be required to take in some into their own homes....why try and foist them on people who do not want them?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_frigate_Méduse_(1810)

It's not like Christians aren't known to be bastards as well. Cannibalism is a common thread in many disasters. Generalizing on behaviour of individuals is weak.

 

Let my try and clarify your rather contradictory post.....muslims are muslims......clear enough? Anyone who does not know anything about Islam should study up.........lots of material available.

 

The moderate terrorists rampaging around in Syria with the Blessings of the US & EU do tons of bad stuff too. So maybe US Conservative should forget about "lefties" and focus on the bird that is funding, arming and aiding the terrorists from Iraq to Libya to Kenya to Ukraine.
BTW, most birds have a left wing and a right wing. If you focus on one wing, you miss the whole story.

 

I didn't say the muslims who threw Christians overboard were terrorists-Im saying if this is what "moderates" do what does that say about these moderates?

It does not matter WHY the fight occurred, in the end muslims threw christians to their deaths.

 

What if the Christians deserved to be thrown into the sea?

 

The Koran is a guide of conquest and oppression.

 

I guess we should just forget about this because it makes you feel better. Not gonna happen.

 

Not more than it is a guide for living one's life with understanding and tolerance. I can cherry-pick quotes from the Bible, too, that make it a so-called "manual of conquest and oppression".

 

Does the Bible reallly inspire violence like the Koran as you see so many liberals proclaim time and again without any evidence.......http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Bible-Quran-Violence.htm

Let us compare the Bible with the Koran.....................here is the evidence that the Koran promotes Jihad>>>>http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm


I would hardly call all the above cherry picking.....verse after verse after verse.

Now let us see your 'claimed' evidence from the Bible that promotes conquest and oppression.

 

What if the moon was blue cheese...you have no evidence whatsoever in reference to your proposition. Perhaps you need to elaborate in regards to why you think Christians deserve to be drowned?

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Moderate terrorists? Who are these moderate terrorists you talk about?