Sheriff Arpaio revives birther controversy at Trump rally

the great unwashed are the great unwashed

 

LOL....

 

a few more of those and you'll have enough material to do a stand up routine.

 

Free Republic as a source? LOL...

Maybe that is what they taught you in Russia- but here in the United States there are two kinds of citizens defined in the Constitution- and only two kinds- Natural Born and Naturalized.

Barack Obama might well have been born a natural born British citizen- but he was absolutely born a natural born citizen of the United States- since he was born in the United States and is not a child of a foreign diplomat.

In the United States we follow the Constitution- not 'Vattel's Law of Nation's- that is why- for example- we have gun rights- something Vattel said should be strictly restricted.

In 2008- Birther suddenly discovered Vattel's law of nations- an influential treatise for maritime law in the United States- and nothing else.

 

It seems many aren't convinced.

Something stinks like a soiled red diaper.

Now if the main stream media would have done their job instead of giving Obama a complete pass, maybe the world would be a safer place today.

 

There is no evidence that Arthur ever lied about his father- it was widely known that his father was not a citizen when Arthur was not born.

Why would President Obama do anything other than state he was born in Hawaii?

Since that made him a natural born citizen- to everyone but a few gullible Birthers- to everyone who counted

The voters
The Electoral College
The entire Congress
Chief Justice Roberts
The courts

Everyone but a few disgruntled and revisionist Birthers

 

Because he did not gain his citizenship from his mother, he could only get it by his place of birth as the law existed at the time of his birth. The question is why didn't he just release his complete set of birth records and clear the matter up from the get-go rather than milk it for political advantage, a President has a duty to ensure his legitimacy is not in question.

 

Yeah- well Birthers have always had a desperate foul stench to them.

You have yet to prove a single thing about Barack Obama's eligibility, despite your laundry list of Birther talking points.

I have no problem with legitimate political opposition to a President- you being opposed to Barack Obama's politics or policies- that is part of the American way.

But this Birther crap- where Birthers make up crap just so you can justify pretending that Barack Obama was not legally chosen by the voters of America to be President twice- well that is just a full diaper load of Birther crap.

 

That is always your question- which you reject any response to.

President Obama released his legal Birth Certificate in 2008 when there were questions regarding his middle name.
Birthers of course immediately refused to believe it.
The State of Hawaii confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii- and that the BC was legitimate
Birthers of course immediately refused to believe that- saying that they had to see a copy of the original with a doctors signature.
In 2011- by special request from the President of the United States(something RWNJ normally would be screaming abuse of executive privelage) Hawaii issued a certified photocopy of his birth certificate.
Birthers of course- like all of the Birthers in this thread- refused to believe it.
Hawaii again confirmed the issuance of the birth certificate- and that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Birthers of course once again refused to believe it.

Trump to this day will not recant his claims that Barack Obama was born outside the United States.

Obama should have never bothered in 2011- Birthers are fact averse- though it was fun to watch him show Trump for the publicity seeking idiot that he is.

 

Since none of those Birther talking points have anything to do with eligibility- and since every college refuses to release the transcripts of every President and Presidential candidate- no explanation is needed to a well educated, rational person.

Ultimately the voters decide whether a candidate has provided enough information to vote for him or her. Some candidates release all of their financial and tax information- others do not- the voters decide whether a candidate has provided enough information.

And voters decided twice that Barack Obama had released enough information.

By the way- Mitt Romney- never released any of the information you are concerned about above- and not a single Birther called for it.

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LOL- tell you what- I will show you Obama's Harvard records when you show me Bush's Harvard records......

Birthers- holding Barack Obama to a different standard than every other candidate or President- since 2008.

 

The birthers were just asking questions that the MSM should have been asking and not getting any answers.

Now the "Killian documents," using Microsoft Words instead of a Remington typewriter to throw a Presidential election by the MSM (CBS News) is called making (*)(*)(*)(*) up to help put a liberal loon in the White House.

The problem with liberals, they are stupid and are always rewriting history (revisionist history) Unknown to many liberals there was no Microsoft Words in 1971-1972. The U.S. military used something called a typewriter back then.


One has to wonder, is that why it took Obama's minions so long to produce Obama's long form birth certificate ? It took them more than a few years to locate a typewriter. The left got caught once using a computer instead of a typewriter, libs might fall for that but not the rest of Americans.

 

Yep, you earned three

You have never read Vattel's have you ?

Have you ever gave it any thought why the "Constitution Society" uses Vattel's so often ?

http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm

 

It's already been done.

 

Birthers will always wonder- since you refuse to accept anything as evidence, unless it is fed to you by WND or convicted forgerers.

Barack Obama showed the world his birth certificate in 2008- confirmed by the State of Hawaii.
Because Trump decided to pander to Birthers- President Obama showed a certified copy of his original birth certificate in 2011- again confirmed by the State of Hawaii.

Of course you don't believe the State of Hawaii- because you have Birthers who say otherwise.

LOL- Birthers....

 

You mean the Constitution Society which has a whole article on Presidential eligibility- and specifically notes that Vattel is not applicable- that Constitution Society?

http://constitution.org/abus/pres_elig.htm

Sometimes miscited is Emmerich de Vattel, in his work Les Droit des Gens (Law of Nations), taking out of context the words from Book I:

§ 212. ... The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

But this is not a precise translation from the French, which has no exact equivalent to "natural born", and the French word word "parens" can mean close family, not necessarily biological parents. He was writing of a modified form of the rule of jus sanguinis that was municipal law (not the law of nations), and only for some countries on the European Continent. A little further down, he explains:
§ 214. ... there are states, as, for instance, England, where the single circumstance of being born in the country naturalizes the children of a foreigner.

While I do not agree completely with the Constitution Society- the Constitution Society ridicules the idea that Vattel defines natural born citizens in the United States.

 

Ah Breitbart- Breitbart has never been partisan of course....LOL

Well lets discuss their claim

Some have claimed that the issue is uniquely related to Obama being our first African American president. This claim is refuted by the fact that the media have published
Biden’s law school and college grades,
Bradley’s SAT score,
Bush’s college grades and SAT score,
Gore’s SAT score and college grades,
Kerry’s college grades,
McCain’s class rank,
Perry’s college grades, and
JFK’s high school grades and test scores.
The media have even disclosed Romney’s ninth-grade transcript, GPA at BYU (3.97 GPA), rank at Harvard Business School (top 5%), and honors at Harvard Law School (cum laude).

What makes President Obama unique among presidential candidates is not the public’s interest in his academic records but the media’s lack of interest in them

Of the items listed above- 3 were illegally leaked transcripts and SAT's- Gore's, Bush's and Perry. The media discussed these because they were illegally leaked to the press- none of them voluntarily released their transcripts- and Bush never released his Harvard transcripts any more than Obama has- but you didn't care then- and you don't care now- because you hold Barack Obama to a different standard than every other candidate.

Biden's law school and college grades? I can't find any record that those were released.

McCain's class rank? The class rank of military academies is part of the public record- but like every other candidate- he declined to release his transcripts.

Now lets go to Romney- note your author doesn't compare Romney's transcripts to Obama's- because Romney- like Obama never released his transcripts- and no one cared.

We do know that Romney graduated 'cum laude' from Harvard Business school- just as we know that Obama graduated 'magna cum laude' from Harvard Law School.

Barack Obama's academic records have been discussed since 1990- when he was selected to be editor of the Harvard Law Review- but like all candidates- he has declined to release his transcripts.

The basic hypocrisy of Birthers is exemplified by Mitt Romney- whom they never saw a college transcript for- and never cared.

And George Bush- who never showed his Harvard transcripts- just as Obama never showed his college transcripts- and you never cared.

Hypocrisy- thy name is Birther.

 

The fact that there were also two contemporaneous birth announcements in Honolulu's two major newspapers just confirms how thorough the conspiracists were to get the American public to first elect, with a popular majority as they repeated four years later, the foreign born, madrasa-indoctrinated African witch doctor 47 years later.

With awesome foresight, the wily dastards clearly thought of everything!



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"They even smuggled the zygote
into an American's womb!"

 

Perhaps the MSM has sufficient education to read and understand the statutes???

 

Natural born citizen is not defined in the constitution its mentioned.

Actually it is also mentioned in the constitution and we enforce it.

Its you after birthers who cant get it right. You still cant tell natural from positive law. Congress can only affirm natural law it cant not make it.

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Still harping on meaningless law. If those make them citizens that means anyone who falls under them can not be an NBC

 

Every sane and intelligent person is. There are about 30 birthers still pouting, but the issue is completely settled.

lol, Obama is the single most vetted and scrutinized president in the entirety of US history.

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Proven lie

 

http://thewashingtonstandard.com/what-our-framers-knew-the-constitution-vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/

 

Can you show me one Certified Document Examiner who has said that the two
birth certificates he posted are real? No, I thought not.

 

Is there one that says it is fake? One that is a member of that organization you cited?

 

We have already established there is no such thing as natural law.

 

The highest qualified expert certified his BC's are authentic.

So like I said, proven lie