Non-Monogamy Growing in Acceptance and Popularity

All I believe is not in imposed age old traditional kinds, and all our systems are totally based on thoughts and that they are right or wrong is value judgments. Traditional family systems work and monogamies have worked for centuries and are still working in societies. Fidelity is still valued and in many countries, and particularly in Muslim societies brides are expected to be virgin.
Therefore all I believe is do what you think best but without transgressing others’ zones. You can have multiples partners at the same time if there is perfect understanding between you and your partner if you have one according to our traditional matrimonial systems you can flirt or else you have to separate yourself from your from your conservative tie-up

 

I support this. People should feel free to do what they want and I think having group options freely available make it more likely partners will get what they want without going behind each others' backs. My fiancee and I have considered doing the threesome or swinging thing. But don't really have time for it right now with a baby around. Probably when we're old.

More like wanting equal rights. Pretty weird to call marriage an institution. It's a contract between, so far, 2 people.

Well especially if you consider homosexuality to be debauchery, so.... Pretty sure lesbian relationships are at least as stable as heterosexual ones though. Having two males is what would make gay marriage unstable - men being less prone to monogamy, frankly.

 

Half of monogamous marriages end in divorce.

 

I believe that with polygamy or polyamory, every woman can find a nice guy.

 

I dont really care about any of this social stuff, marry 20 horses if thats what makes you happy.

But to say that this kind of stuff hasnt helped to harm the "traditional family" is completely false. Again, not a big deal to me, do what you want.

But I do feel bad for those of you out there who dont find a person they truly are in love with and stay together through thick and thin. That is why I support gay marriage because I think that is still possible.

Polygamy and these things though, I dont want to make them illegal or anything, but it definitely affects the "moral fiber" of the country.

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Hmm, I know the arrangement is decided upon by both in the marriage, but man....

I cant imagine loving someone and being able to watch them do my fiance, I would be in jail. I guess that is true love to me, or maybe I am just selfish?

 

http://jezebel.com/that-50-percent-divorce-statistic-hasnt-been-true-for-a-1665833364

I thought this was an interesting article, I have found several like it. Their stats show that 2/3's (66%) of marriages last and it has been on an upward trend for decades.

How has the gay movement not used this as an arguement?

 

When you claim "moral fiber", does that also include the abomination of hypocrisy? The Right believes it only relates to human sexuality in modern times.

 

What do you think humans are, trees?

Trees are blown down by the first strong wind that comes by. Animals, unlike plants, can move and do other things in response to changing circumstances

It wasn't really plural marriage we found problematic but a religion that was, at the time, almost as hostile to everybody as Radical Islam is now. Mormonism has changed a lot, particularly since the government sent the Army into Utah in the 1890's

But they still have branches that permit group marriage. And isn't this something of a moot issue? We permit group marriage, we just don't have the government sanction it as a legal arrangement of its own, and why should we, that's what we have normal contracts and wills for, isn't it?

"perverted ego" "lust consumed"

I think all of us have an "uncanny" ability to know what it is YOU need

 

Thats how you get a nation of useless idiots who grow up neglected in single parent households, with no opportunity to compete for a high paying job, in the future.

These are some of the same people who gun people down for a pair of Air Jordans.....

 

As long as the supremacist mind set maintains its hold on society, you can be sure an actual freed society will not become apparent any time in the near future. Just more BS to keep the people divided, so the business of America can continue to be controlled by the rich/elite and their plutocracy.

 

can you explain the process? i believe it has more to do with inefficient public policies than with human nature. who wouldn't want to earn a decent living, even if it means having to work and develop a work ethic.

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even women have a Ninth Amendment in the US; and, we all know they all know how to talk.

 

Process??? There's no process....

Just single mothers giving birth to fatherless children.

 

i believe it has more to do with inefficient public policies than with human nature. who wouldn't want to earn a decent living, even if it means having to work and develop a work ethic.

 

I'm sorry did I say something about women? We have become the subjects of/to whatever the three branches of government dictate by majority. There is no constitution as it was intended to be. Yes this includes women.

 

By "permit marriage" I assume you switched to religious marriage. We "permit" anything in that realm. Churches can marry the dead, marry adults and minors, or anything else they want to do.

The political discussion of multiple marriage and the recent SC rulings on marriage apply to state marriage only.

State marriage includes features that can not be resolved by contract between those being married.


btw, my understanding is that polygamy was the major reason for the "Utah war", which didn't really do much more than replace Young as the territorial governor.

 

Wanting isn't enough.

It takes effort and hard work, and the guidance of two parents invested in their child's future.

Public policies have almost nothing to do with it.

If the government really wants to improve things they'd encourage the nuclear family, and shun single parenthood and the glorification of the homosexual lifestyle

 

Don't forget the theocracy too.

 

The rich/elites use of religion is evident. Anything to create divide among the peasants, class, race, sex, religion, etc... is a good thing for the plutocracy.

 

You don't believe in capitalism and the perception of being paid what you are worth, ostensibly, to do a Good job and not a Bad job?

 

First you say that public policy has nothing to do with it and in the next breath you say that the government should " and shun single parenthood and the glorification of the homosexual lifestyle" Do you realize how inconsistent that is?

Now, how EXACTLY would the government "shun single parenthood" ? Let's see, not provide tax credits for children born to single moms? Brilliant! Or did you have another idea? BTW, some women chose to be single parents, have the means and are quite capable as parents. Do they not have that right? For those who did not choose it, should they not be given as much support as possible? It is one thing to encourage people to wait until marriage to have children, it is quite another to " shun them"

Now about " glorifying gay marriage" First of all, granting gays equality is not glorifying anything. Second of all two people of the same sex who have children are still a nuclear family and the children still have two parents. Now that gays can marry, those children are more likely to have the security of having two married parents who are both the legal guardian.

What part of this are you not getting? Do you give much thought to your bather?

 

what does the homosexual family have to do with your family, it doesnt effect mine any more then your family does

 

so you wanted bigger government to handle that?

 

So what is your master plan to ensure that all children have two parents? Remember, this thread is, in part, about poly relationships. If two parents are good, how great is 4 or more?

 

I'm more monogamous than you. There's a lot more information contained within his post than you're able to pick up on, apparently.

 

I know all I need to know. You have some serious issues and this lifestyle only has you moving backwards. You need to start progressing forward.