Are black people and white people equal?

Yes. I see rampant racism posted here, and I read about it in the news, such as the Maine governor.

 

Racism is the belief one race is superior to another. Hitler, for instance, was racist.
Most drug dealers are black. That's a fact, not a racist comment. The NFL & NBA are dominated by blacks. That's a fact. Most all kindergarten teachers are women, that's a fact. Men are physically stronger than women, fact. Why acknowledging these facts is often viewed so negatively is an enigma to me.

 

Is that a fact? Please put forth the source of that fact.

 

Drug related crime is also much higher in black communities.

(People In The US Serving Time In State Prison For Drug Offenses, by Race, 2013) The most serious offense for 208,000 of the 1,325,305 people in the US sentenced to state facilities at the end of 2013 was a conviction involving illegal drugs. That represents 15% of all sentenced prisoners under state jurisdiction. Of this total: 67,800 (32.6%) were non-Hispanic white, 79,900 (38.4%) were non-Latino/Hispanic African Americans, and 39,900 (19.2%) were Latino/Hispanic.

(Note: The Bureau of Justice Statistics annual report on prisoners does not provide separate counts for inmates who identify as American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons identifying two or more races.)

Source: Carson, E. Ann. Prisoners In 2014. Washington, DC: US Dept of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sept. 2015, NCJ248955, Table 11, p. 16; Appendix Table 4, p. 30.
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5387
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p14.pdf
- See more at: http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Race_and_Prison#sthash.AhnJtx2D.dpuf

 

That does not say "most drug dealers are black" as you claimed.

 

The overwhelming majority of inmates convicted for drug related crimes are black. Far higher than whites even though they comprise a much smaller portion of the population. Black communities have much more drug related crime and drug busts. If you want to pretend it isn't so, be my guest. All the drugs and crime are almost always confined to black areas. They aren't coming to white suburbs to sell. The devastation the crime and drugs create for blacks is terribly detrimental to blacks. Black public schools are awful, blacks are killing one another, poverty is rampant. Why folks want to pretend it doesn't exist and address it boggles my mind. Black communities are going to have to organize and unify to begin to fix it. Acknowledging it isn't racism, it's concern.
There are tons of very successful and wealthy blacks. Blacks have jobs in every type of field. Obviously, they can and do succeed.
I'll ask again, why does stating the facts offend you so?

 

Link to that "fact" please.

Facts don't offend me. Your statement that " most drug dealers are black" is not a fact, at least not int he sense that you have provided a source that determines that.

 

(People In The US Serving Time In State Prison For Drug Offenses, by Race, 2013) The most serious offense for 208,000 of the 1,325,305 people in the US sentenced to state facilities at the end of 2013 was a conviction involving illegal drugs. That represents 15% of all sentenced prisoners under state jurisdiction. Of this total: 67,800 (32.6%) were non-Hispanic white, 79,900 (38.4%) were non-Latino/Hispanic African Americans, and 39,900 (19.2%) were Latino/Hispanic.

(Note: The Bureau of Justice Statistics annual report on prisoners does not provide separate counts for inmates who identify as American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons identifying two or more races.)

Source: Carson, E. Ann. Prisoners In 2014. Washington, DC: US Dept of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sept. 2015, NCJ248955, Table 11, p. 16; Appendix Table 4, p. 30.
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5387
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p14.pdf
- See more at: http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Race_and_Prison#sthash.AhnJtx2D.dpuf

 

Again, that link does not support what you claim is a fact.

 

Stating blacks are the most drug dealers is not the same as saying that blacks commit the most drug crimes.

It's a loose correlation on its best day. This is weak to deep inspection.

Just because most blacks are convicted for drug crimes does not imply that blacks always are drug dealers. Since dealing drugs is not the only drug related crime you can be arrested for. Possession of drugs with intent to distribute is more specific to drug dealing. So we have to narrow this down.

A drug dealer is in effect controlling the supply chain of drugs. So one would have to look at drugs at all levels. One distributed and supplier is worth about 30 corner dealers. They have far more impact in the circulation of drugs as a whole. Are most of them black?

Lastly there is a higher ratio of police patrol in black neighborhoods over white ones. Or neighborhoods of any race at that. Seems like with more police on the streets more arrest have to happen. So this is another reason for the so-called disproportion.


Saying blacks are arrested more has zero correlation are the most populous drug dealers.

 

Blacks are killing one another, going to prison, failing in schools, living in poverty. Until they start acknowledge it and working to fix it, it's not going to change.

 

I doubt that prediction is correct.

10char.

 

You do realize this is a small percentage of blacks are in this situation. Do the math. This is less than 10% of the total black population. So it seems to me blacks are fixing these issues.

 

yes, in most case, things like the use of the n-word maybe not so much, but it shoudl be, equality should be the goal, not separate but equal

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More cops are there because more crime is. The black crisis in America doesn't affect whites very much at all. Black schools are deplorable, black communities are crime ridden, blacks are killing one another, blacks are going to prison at alarmingly disproportionate percentages, blacks are living in poverty.
Ignore it, chalk it up to racism, doing so isn't helping improve conditions.
Many, many blacks are wealthy, influential, educated, and successful.

 

Hmm. So how many whites have registered for drug rehab vs blacks. This number is quite even. Who is selling the drugs to white people?

 

The black prison population isn't going down. Poverty among blacks isn't decreasing. Dropout rates and performance in black schools isn't improving. What's being done about it? What possible solutions do you have to offer?

 

Not always.. I have had several black friends in a lifetime.. But now.. I have an acquaintance for a couple of years now.. She is very bright and very talented ... creative, but she grew up poor and had little formal education.. Worked hard in jobs that didn't give her much sense of accomplishment or respect or income or security .. Her kids turned out good.

She is a hypochondriac and a profoundly angry woman.

 

Start a thread and I may grace it with my presence and thoughts.

 

In black communities gas stations sell drug paraphernalia like straight stems, chalets, chore boy brillo. They don't in white areas. In black areas dealers walk around soliciting sells.
Prescription opiods (roxy/oxycontin, percocet, vicodin) and benzodiazapines (xynax, valium, clonopin) are a MAJOR problem for whites right now. Alcohol is the most fatal drug still. Whites doctor shop, buy other peple's scripts and meds, rob drug stores.
Private rehabs are primarily white because they usually only accept prepayment or private insurance. Government subsidized rehabs have a more diverse census.
Now, what's being done? In 2014 health providers were mandated by law to switch to EMR record keeping. The prescription drug problem was noted years ago. Today when you go to the doctor, your medical record follows you. It tracks what doctors you see, any prescriptions you are given, hospital stays, etc. Penalty for medical negligence means license revocation, fines, jail. Possession of unprescribed pills can mean a charge for every single pill you're carrying. Suboxone (opioid antagonist) and Subutex are drugs that have recently hit the market and are widely used in rehabs and prescribed after discharge. As you can see, a lot of measures to address this primarily white drug problem have been acknowledged and addressed.
If blacks choose not to acknowledge and address their problem issues, that's their choice.

 

Pretty sure a young black man caught doctor-shopping for Oxycotin is NOT going to get the same slap-on-the-wrist punishment that....


Rush Limbaugh got.

 

Really now?

http://m.springfieldnewssun.com/new...cks-denied-loans-more-than-low-incom-1/nNBwY/

Once again where do whites get their drugs from. White narcotic abuse is not that uncommon. Who sells them drugs?

 

Celebrities and politicians are absolutely treated differently.

 

Your link was about race and mortgage lending.
There is plenty of white narcotic use. The hood is an easy place to find their drug of choice. Meth is a big problem for whites.

 

Most whites do not go to the hood to purchase their illegal narcotics though. Moral of the story is, they get their drugs from somewhere. More than likely NOT black drug dealers. So your assumption that majority of the drug dealers in America are black is false. People purchase drugs in places that are in close vicinity to them.So there ARE white drug dealers in the world and of other races. And guess what, if you had the same amount of policing in those neighborhoods as you have in black neighborhoods, they would get arrested too.

Me personally? I don't think dealing drugs has to be inheritently violent. There are definitely people who sell drugs and there is almost ever very little violence behind it. Drug dealing itself is not very violent. What is violent are gang and turf wars over WHO will sell drugs. But one cannot talk about small gang and turf wars without talking about how drugs themselves are distributed around the country. And you will not find that blacks are even remotely dominant when it comes to this. So the people spinning the wheels of the drug trade are NOT the people dealing drugs to people on the streets. It is the people importing them and muling them around to neighborhoods. And these supplier are very high up.

How many big suppliers are actually locked up every year in the drug war? When you want to have a serious conversation about who is really causing drug problems in America, I'm right here. But I won't stand by and listen you this one sided BS making blacks the immediate villains when other people of other racial groups have their hands in the pot too. But the thing is I doubt you even care about people using drugs, you care more about discrediting black people. As to why, only you can answer it. But whatever drives you can't be good and seems very toxic.