Sanders sweeps Washington and Alaska

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So if Hillary is indicted or even has a criminal referral hanging over head will the Democrats make sure Sanders gets the nomination?

    Washington Democratic caucuses

    Delegates at stake: 101 pledged delegates

    Outcome: Sanders has won a huge victory, according to calls by multiple media outlets. At press time, he had 72 percent of the vote to Clinton's 28 percent. If those margins hold, he'll make up some important ground in the pledged delegate count. But he'll still be behind — before today, he trailed Clinton by 300, and even if he does fantastically in all three states tonight, he's unlikely to cut her lead below 200.

    Alaska Democratic caucuses

    Delegates at stake: 16 pledged delegates

    Outcome: Sanders has won big — he's been called the winner by multiple media outlets, and at press time was leading 79 percent to Clinton's 21 percent.
    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/26/11306710/when-do-polls-close-results-washington-hawaii-alaska
     
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    Actually Clinton now has over 1700 delegates to Sanders 985.
     
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    Hillary will most likely win NY, NJ, CT, Pa, Delaware, Maryland, and possibly Wisconsin, which is a total of 846 pledged delgates. These are all closed primaries, which means Independents can't vote in the Democrat primary. If she wins 70% in all of these, that's 592 more pledged delegates which brings her to 1,850. Plus all of her super-delegates, she may clinch this by April 16.
     
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    If Sanders is still winning caucuses, this far past Supertuesday, by margins like 70 or 80%, it shows that

    1. He is a very shrewd campaigner. his message is potent and his progressive/ social democratic values are very relevant in this party.
    2. Clinton is a weak campaigner candidate. This is her second time around, and even with all her connections, her treasure chest, her name familiarity, her endorsements, and her presence on the ground in all fifty states, she still cannot kill off this old socialist who was not even a member of this party 9 months ago. A lot of Democrats just do not like or trust her. They do not feel comfortable that she is authentic in her 'progressive/ liberal cloth' and they do NOT appreciate feeling like she has been thrust down their throats by the DNC.

    However competent and experienced she is, many feel like this was a coronation in this party, rather than an election. What the hell were all these democratic primaries for, if there wasn't going to be a serious debate in this party and there really wasn't. O'Malley left the whole process completely irrelevant after Iowa. Something is very wrong here. She was not the President, and yet she was treated as the presumptive leader of the party.

    None of this is Hillary's fault. She was allowed to 'game' the system and she did.
     
  5. Uber Lib

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    with no real contender to Clinton it was only natural to virtually coronate her since she had a solid base which still includes most minorities, but then life happened and along comes Sanders who resonated v well with many and provided a legit alt for those Clinton adverse or looking for a dream candidate. now, despite Sanders desperately trailing in minorities and delegates he's making a race out of it and may run the next 8 states, if he does then all bets are off and his momentum could take him to the finish line in fine shape and drag at least the Senate flip w him. it's simply a good Presidential run for Dems, no serious hanky panky or hokey pokey going on, tho the DNC is nervous and should be, it just a fine pre election donnybrook that will make history either way. and should the improbability of legal strife for Clinton arise then Bernie easily takes the Presidency. unwad your BVDs and enjoy the ride like it's never been seen before.
     
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    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/25/3763388/bernie-sanders-dnc-lawsuit-voter-file/

    quote from the article

    “The DNC, in an inappropriate overreaction, has denied us access to our own data,” Sanders campaign Weaver said at the time. “In other words, the leadership of the Democratic National Committee is actively trying to undermine our campaign.”


    good job to sanders :) won hawaii too.
     
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    Bernie winning in Washington and Hawaii doesn't surprise me. Washington is one of the most liberal states in the US, and Seattle must take the cake for liberal bastion extraordinaire. But him winning is Alaska is a head scratcher. When I lived there, Alaska was really conservative. Things have changed up there. Sarah Palin must have pushed them off the conservative ledge and right into the hands of Bernie. LOL Guess who would never be elected for anything in Alaska again.
     
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    Sanders is doing amazingly well. I remember when Ralph Nader ran in 2000. He was quite popular amongst the liberal crowd; but I don't think he was as popular as Bernie is.
     
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    Washington is far from the most liberal state. In fact it's pretty evenly split.
    Alaska in not all that conservative either, in fact they can be very liberal on some things.
     
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    Oh, so there was a weekends at Bernie's, huh. :smile:
     
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    1712 to 1004 with 160 uncommitted. And Sanders TROUNCED Clinton she did t even get 30% in any of the states this weekend. Then there are those super-delsgates. Will the DNC take it away from Sanders against the vote of the people? You knkw like is being thrown at the RNC?

    AND if there is a indictment hanging over head (regardless of the fact that with what we know now she should never be elected President) will they dump her for Sanders?
     
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    She didn't even get 30% and the remaining state are proportional. And if she can't win the independents. So if Sanders trounces her the rest of the way will the Democrats use the Super delegates to award the nomination to Hillary?

    And then there is that grand jury thingy with an indictment hanging over her head and her staffs. Are the voters catching on and what will the DNC do?

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    And he even beat her in Hawaii!
     
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    Good analysist and then there are the superdelegates the Democrats can use tk take the vote frkm the people.
     
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    Or maybe the Democrats or at least more and more are seeing Clinton might be a scandal disaster for them. So of he continues will the DNC do even more to lock him out even of the people want him instead?
     
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    Do you actually think there is an election process here ?:roflol:
     
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    Let's see an angry old white pinko commie coward in his depends fully loaded or a criminal, serial liar ,Butcher of Benghazi, the barking dog ! :clapping::flagus::salute:
     
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    I wouldn't say the super delegates would be taking anything away from Sanders. To date Clinton has received 8,924,920 votes to Sanders 6,398,420. Clinton has received more than 2.5 million votes than Sanders. I really do not see Sanders closing that gap with the remaining primaries. The truth is this was in the bag for Clinton since around 4 years ago. The Democrats then decided she would be their nominee, letting Sanders run was just for show, sort of to make their nomination process look legit.

    Trump on the other hand has received 7,911,245 votes or approximately 37% of all Republican votes cast where Hillary has received 57% of all Democratic votes cast. So there is no taking it away from Sanders to give to Hillary even with the super delegates.
     
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    It wouldn't matter. He couldn't get a thing passed through Congress anyway. The 'establishment'--left and right ain't taking kindly to a socialist.
     
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    The last 6 primaries or caucases Clinton has won ONE. And talk of the super delegates changing their support to Sanders. And again Clinton's margin includes the super delegates which means Sanders could very well get close enough or even win the pledged delegates' that the DNC through the super delegates would be awarding it to Clinton. AND there is a voice in the Sanders delegates that they will NEVER support Clinton and that could split the party.

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    Oh believe me I know and that is one of the conundrums which the Democrats have put themselves.
     
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    That's a lot of sweeping for an elderly hunchback.

    I hope he has a few extra brooms.
     
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    Both sides-right and left--strange elections. I don't thing Trump would be able to get anything passed either. He reminds of the type to just write up executive orders when he didn't get his way.

    Interesting election year.
     
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    He'd have a far better chance than Sanders socialist policies.
     
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    Maybe true, but he's so caustic.
     
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    Yep he will need a VERY strong chief-of-staff to control him but then if he does try to do so YOU'RE FIRED!
     
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    The thing is Sanders is not going to close that 2.5 million vote that he trails Clinton by. That will only increase as time goes by. Of the big states primaries left, Clinton leads Sanders 63-28 in New York, 47-38 in California, 55-27 in Pennsylvania, 58-27 in New Jersey, 59-27 in Maryland and those are the big states. Unless the FBI recommends an indictment, this race is over and has been for years.
     

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