The people who did die in the holocaust would be turning in their graves knowing that others are using their deaths and sufferings for their own personal gain. Shame on them. What does bother me and should be a double shame on them, are those who complain about the holocaust and say never again, but the never again is only for their own preservation and gain, not for all the others such as the Russians in the Donbass, Kurds in Turkey, Syria and Iraq and the Yemenis killed by those who Washington supports directly or indirectly.
Yes I appreciate your comment on that subject. Churchill was a class enemy & a war monger. Especially to the families of coal miners from which I originate. Still, that said he was a man that we (the British got behind) for a time. But you must remeber that as soon as the war was won, we kicked him out of power, he wasn't even able to attend the Potstam conference of 1945. Churchill was many things, one being a paid lacky of the Jewish lobby & a horrible war monger. But faced with a dominate Germany he did what was needed, just like to-day we need someone to stand up against the German-Franco peril that dominate Europe to-day. Unfortunately we have "Dave" Cameron & he is a waste of space & a liar to-boot. Not worthy to lead a Country such as Britian.... Or maybe he is, since Britian to-day is a sh*te hole on the decline compared to what it could be if freed from the facist EU state control.
You MUST say "H"olocaust with a capital "H", because it is now a trade mark of so-called Jewish suffering & a copyright to claim the moral high-ground. ... When the only true Holocast, which means a burning offering was perpetrated on the German people by the allied air forces on the German civilians.
Not to mention the US firebombing around a 100 civilian cities of Japan, and nuclear bombing 2. Because massacring civilians city after city is justified when you burn them alive or vaporize them, while a Pally shooting a flimsy missile to end being ethnic cleansed / attempt to return to his rightful home, is terror.
The Germans had no choice but to be members of the Nazi party. What you shouldn't do is to continue to indulge yourself in lawsuits or what not, because it's going to backfire. Every injustice done is bound to cause a reaction. .. and it was the European reaction to the Bolshevik revolution and the millions killed in Russia and the destruction of the Churches that gave rise to an opposing force; which was the extreme nationalism of Fascism and Nazism to the internationalism of the Soviet Union. If the Jews in Europe paid the price, it was because of their prevalence and leadership in the communist parties in Europe. So it's best to stop licking your wounds and to pay more attention to the crimes our own government is committing in the world which are a lot worse than Germany and even Japan because they too are causing a very strong reaction.
There is one problem about the Palestinians returning to their own lands , and that is why is it so important that they return, when millions upon millions of non Muslims, and especially Christians have been ethnically cleansed, and yet no one talks about their rights to return to their own land? Is that fair and is that just? Or is there one set of rules for one people and another set of rules for another people? Of course this doesn't excuse the crimes the Israelis are committing, no more than the Nazis could be excused for killing fifty people in retaliation for the life of one German soldier.
If you bring it like that, than the burden of the arian and the jew is even greater, because they are the ones who enslaved about the entire world with their colonial rule massacring anybody who objected for centuries. And why it is so important for their return, is because it is their right. Ethnic cleansing is a no no according to the Geneva Conventions, and Israel is a signatory of that.
Their right? So says some book written 2000 years ago. As for Geneva Convention, like most Governments to-day, they say one thing and practice another! The Israeli occupation of the West Bank has been described as ethnic cleansimg & war crime. If these crimes (of course disputed by the pro-Isreal lobby) were more reported by the media than possibly there would be more of an outcry. But WHY are these events not more reported? Is it because we in the West hate the Muslims that have these crimes committed against them? Or because most Media is controlled by the Jewish/Zionist lobby? Mmmmm I wonder ...
Geneva Convention say ethnic cleansing is wrong. That is where that right comes from. Is that 2000 years old? I'm not aware of that. Indeed. But that is not relevant to who is right or wrong, morally speaking or with the law by your side.
But how can you say that the Palestinians should return to Palestine, and then not say that the Serbs should return to Kosovo, the Greek Cypriots should return to their homes, the Greek Christians from Constantinople should return to their homes, the Armenians should return to their homes, the Assyrian Christians should return to their homes... and we can go on and on. It seems to me it's always the Muslims who keep demanding that return, but not others. Why, if not for Islamic expansionist reasons?
Source where I have said that please. Because I believe you're making things up and putting things in my mouth to deliberately make a dishonest argument. Returning home is expansionistic? lol Neah.. a person ethnic cleansing is the expansionist. Are you able to follow this logic or is this above your head?
Are you blind to reality or deeply prejudiced-or maybe both? Why have you so studiously avoided mentioning Bad Arolsen where the fate of all those millions is clearly documented and available for anyone-even you-to research? I know, it's because 15 million documents are all forgeries designed in a cunning plot to kick-start the "Holocaust industry". Right? I saw the Loch Ness monster once; honestly I did...
All the evidence, facts, and testimonials in the world make no difference to Holocaust deniers. MOD EDIT>>>RULE 7<<<.
Hmmm, I thought holocaust denial was ridiculous and some neonazi propaganda prior to this thread. After researching for awhile now, I have yet to find evidence of A) gas chambers being used on people, and B) that the 6,000,000 figure has already been lowered by several million if not more. I know this sounds crazy, but I'm not sure what to believe at this point. I came across this Jewish kid named David Cole who went to Auschwitz with his yarmulke and got the private tour. He asked a bunch of questions to the guide as well as Dr. Franciszek Piper, at that time the Senior Curator of the Auschwitz State Museum and filmed the whole thing. While he admits he is now an Atheist and wore the yarmulke so the tour people would be more open to his questions, what he presents here is pretty astounding. The following video is from 1992, just a few years after Auschwitz officially revised their numbers: [video=youtube;RHzWo79dCHs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs[/video]
Like I just said, "I'm not sure what to believe at this point." You can watch the video I just posted for yourself. I would love your thoughts.
If the 6-millions holocaust is so real, then why are debates and dissidence about it outlawed in most of the occident? There are people in jail for expressing their disbelief about even the numbers as we speak. I myself am weary of the "truths" that are enforced with the full weight of the law. Sounds a bit Orwellian for my tastes. Just sayin'.
I don't really care, tbh, but it's probably viewed as some kind of safeguard against history repeating itself (Europeans have a long history of killing Jews, after all). Regardless, I'm all in favor of it. Scum like that should be banned here, in fact. It's unfortunate the moderators are so tolerant of blatant hate speech.
Thank you for supporting totalitarism. No need for a state truth for history to repeat itself: What we saw in 1934 Germany we see it in Israel. It is the word "holocaust" that is taboo, not the actual abuse that it implies. One get the feeling that what the Nazi have done wrong wasn't to kill people - it was to kill Jews. Maybe one day the very same coercion will be used when people will try to deny the Palestinians' abuse, as memorials to the Palestinians' suffering will be erected here and there in Jewish neighborhoods. But when that day come I will be as against coercion then as I am against it today.
No I do not hate Germans. I have German friends, I have German coworkers. Still it was Germans who murdered my family and were responsible for the murder of 6 Million Jews and commited WW2, nothing racist about it. Simple facts.
Just like the US and UK had as a policy to burn people alive on a massive scale by firebombing German and Japanese cities. Just a simple fact. Except mainly Americans say even today that burning civilians alive on a massive scale is totally justified. The Germans changed their minds.