Scant Evidence That Clinton Had Malicious Intent

Because Clinton has continually lied, because the State Department withheld evidence, because Clinton's IT guy pled the 5th so we had to go through the immunity thingy, because every week new condeming evidence is brought to light which adds to the investigation, because all the key players have not been interviewed as of yet. etc etc etc

Please show me where there was some set deadline else she is innocent.

 

She had the security clearance and it was suspended and then removed after she pled guilty, she had been vetted to receive and read and transmit highly classified information. The most you could say is she did not have a need to know, but that does not void her security clearance which she maintained. But the fact remains your statement was a lie of omission, she was not just a person on the street to whom he allowed to see the information.

 

Oh nice, a red herring. I'm collecting a lot of con fallacies today, thank you!

 

Much reported on. You must live in a vacuum.

 

oh but I thought you cons were saying "any day now" which turned to "any month now" which is now turning into "It's all a conspiracy". I've seen birthers more credible than some of the excuses you and the other cons have been using. continue on, but please.....don't feel to "blue" over it.

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To bad it didn't have to do with anything of this case, but thank you for the collection of fallacies. It's all you cons can muster against Hillary now. Pathetic, but not surprised that's all you got sonny.

 

Only fact are fallacies to the true believers.

 

She did not have security clearance to view that information. But I'm sure you will continue saying this knowing full well what the actual facts are. We call those people...

"Broadwell had high security clearances as part of her former job as a reserve Army major in military intelligence. But those clearances are only in effect when a soldier is on active duty, which she was not at the time she researched the Petraeus biography."

https://homeland.house.gov/press/ap-scandal-widens-probe-top-us-generals-emails/

 

You have no facts, only opinions and red herrings. You cons have nothing on Hillary, but still keep throwing (*)(*)(*)(*) like monkeys. Thank you again for the collection of fallacies con.

 

You should read his global warming theories, lol. Dudes a real life tin foiler.

 

Show us one person in the Obama administration the AG has gone after? Fast and Furious? The IRS Targeting? Who?

 

People don't get put in jail because you don't like them. F&F and the IRS Targeting were just more ridiculous scandals conservatives made in to bigger deals than they were. It's hilarious. Based on your partisan criteria there would be so many people in jail from past administrations. But luckily, the real world doesn't match your guys weird made up world.

 

Do you ever grow weary of being wrong......

 

300 Mexican citizens died due to Obama's Fast and Furious program, he should be turned over to Mexico for prosecution.

 

So you're going with a .com site over a .gov site dealing with homeland security? Lmao. Alright.

 

Like always, you obviously didn't read anything about it or just can't grasp reality. They didn't do anything illegal. The people who bought those guns, bought them legally because of Arizona law. The only thing they did was take down the serial numbers to try to track them if they found them. Nothing illegal about that. And they could not arrest anyone without evidence. So those guns were bought legally.

 

So you're telling us the Obama administration is going to police itself on a .gov site?

 

I'm saying they know more about security clearance than your .com site. No reason to lie about Broadwell's security clearance, lol.

 

Guess you missed the news that after several court orders and 3 years the IRS FINALLY released the list and it shows almost DOUBLE the amount they claimed before Congress, almost 500 and the vast majority as under the instructions they were given contain the key words to target conservative groups and as FOX just reported on air only THREE had liberal keywords and those by all appearances were added after the fact to try and add some "see we targeted liberal groups" excuse.

The whole thing is an outrage but I sure hope that if Trump does win his IRS acts in kind and uses the power of the IRS to target progressive/liberal groups. Time to fight fire with fire. And of course you will be defending that too will you not?

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If she had no security clearance then how did the suspend and the revoke it?

 

Dunno why I'm dealing with idiotic posts of yours... but why not? OK, I'll bite - here are my questions. Do show, which one of them implies "that it is cut and dry", whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) it means?

1. It's a well known fact, the old shoe used her homebrewed email server exclusively for all communications, private and official. Yes, no?

2. It's a well known fact, lots of confidential information passed through old shoe's homebrewed email server. Yes, no?

3. It's a well known fact, the old shoe said, no confidential formation has passed through her homebrewed email server. Yes, no?

4. t's a well know fact, person who initiates confidential communication is called "originator" and is charged with marking confidential communication as "confidential". Yes, no?

Again, which one of my questions implies whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) you think it implies?

 

"They" the government did not write that. It is an AP story someone, most likely one of the Democrat members, posted.

Please show me the regulation that states she losses her security clearance when she is not on active duty.

And then read

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Another approach for keeping your clearance active is service in the National Guard or reserves. "Many of the jobs we have in the Guard and reserve require a security clearance," said Thomas F. Hall, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs. "Your continued affiliation should allow you to maintain your active clearance for years." Reserve and Guard service allows you to keep this valuable asset intact, regardless of whether your current employer requires a clearance. "
http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Michel_070504,00.html

Or show me where it says your security clearance is only active when you are on active duty

https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Reserve Security Clearance Services for IRR IMA ARE and JRU

The CLAIM that is being made is that he gave the information to someone WITHOUT a security clearance which is false, she HAD a security clearance. The question is did she have a need to know with regard to her duties in the Army Reserve to view that information and was it properly handled. NOT that she did NOT have the security clearance and nor had been vetted to view TOP Secret information. FAR FAR different from all the people who never had a security clearance nor had been vetted to view the classified information she passed through her private unsecured server.

 

"As a reservist, she had, we're told, top-secret compartmented information clearance. But that clearance is only in place, if you will, active when she's on reserve duty. Clearly when she was embedded with Petraeus, getting ready as his biographer to write a book, that clearance didn't apply," said Townsend."

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/...oadwells-classified-clearance/comment-page-1/

 

Once you are given a security clearance it stays active until it expires or is taken away. But Petraeus was also charged with keeping classified documents in an unauthorized location.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/aug99/deutch21.htm

"CIA Director George J. Tenet announced yesterday that he has suspended the security clearance of his predecessor, John M. Deutch, for violating government rules by working with classified material on an unsecured computer at his home."

 

However, Former CIA Director Deutch and General David Petraeus may differ with your evaluation. They were prosecuted and found guilty for far less than Hillary has committed.

See:
Security and Privacy Controls for Federal Information ...
http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-53r4.pdf
NIST Special Publication 800-53 ... Federal Information Security Management Act ... The Special Publication 800-series reports on ITL’s research,

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36 C.F.R. § 1222.24 — Departing officials and employees [may] not remove Federal records from agency custody”

36 C.F.R. § 1236.22(b) — Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system.”

Handling of sensitive-but-unclassified (SBU) information
“Where warranted by the nature of the information, employees who will be transmitting SBU information outside of the Department network on a regular basis to the same official and/or most personal addresses, must contact the [information security officials] for guidance in implementing a secure technical solution for those transmissions.” —State Department Foreign Affairs Manual

Preserving federal records from loss or destruction
“All Department employees are … required by law to preserve documentary materials meeting the definition of a record under the Federal Records Act [and are] responsible for creating, using, maintaining, preserving, and disposing of the Department’s information and records.” — State Department Foreign Affairs Manual

 

By whom? And if she had no clearance then what did the suspend and then revoke? And reservist use their security clearance ROUTINELY when they are not on ACTIVE duty. You think all the reservist sit around doing nothing because they have not been called up to active duty? They are only called up for active duty when there suddenly becomes a need for them. But they do regular training and drills and have to maintain any clearances they have and with the working knowledge to immediately step in when called. They don't just send them home reservist spend LOTS of time carrying out their reservist duties.

The claim is that the Clinton and Patreaus issues are no different. Well yes they are, she had been vetted and had a security clearance to view TOP SECRET and SAP information. But with such information there is also a need to know, she did not have that need to know in her role as his biographer which was not her military role.

You guys gotta do a LOT better than this to try and get Hillary out of the extreme legal jeopardy in which she finds herself.

 

Patreus showed classified Intel to his GF who was unauthorized

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His GF did not have clearance when he was sharing our nations secrets with her.

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Was Deutch charged?