Black Lives Matter

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    So far, we're running a big fat 0 when it comes to identifying any group that thinks black lives matter.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL!!!!

    that's a cute comment
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Sorry not a shred of evidence supports that conclusion.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Little evidence suggest that as well.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    No sir what I am saying is two fold. First there is no evidence to support any of BLM's narratives, Black men aren't being shot at higher rates then Caucasian men. 2nd the number of unarmed black men killed by cops equals three percent of the total number of Black men killed by cops which is already so small as to require you to talk in terms of at least 1 in 100,000 to get to a whole number result.in the numerator. 2nd if the movement is built on falsehood and is still alive then there has to be a reason for that beyond the obvious. In this case I see sufficient evidence that this is driven by far left agitprop who iin the end want this country as it currently exists to go away and the quickest and easiest way to make that happen is to end the rule of law.
     
  6. Lesh

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    Really? Not the FACT that blacks are twice as likely to be shot by cops (while unarmed)?

    The FACT that they are far more likely to be manhandled by cops than whites?
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    No evidence at all?

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    Evidence that I'm sure you'll ignore

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.dccea8d8bc2d
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree, that is why I say ALL LIVES MATTER, I see bad cops effecting both blacks and whites

    and I think most of it is caused by the war on drugs
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you know that is by both black and white cops... the reason is some are more likely to add adrenaline to the stop by being loud and resisting the officers orders, this is true of both white and black gang banger types
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we have seen it over and over, often times grand juries that would give the ok to try a ham sandwich wont say to try a cop
     
  10. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So...What is your solution? Get rid of law enforcement?
     
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    Well your solution is to do nothing and pretend it isn't happening.

    Here's an idea...better training and clearer rules of engagement...that don't include killing unarmed people.
     
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    Yes, bad cops are bad cops but, they are a minuscule segment of total law enforcement. I do agree that legalizing Marijuana (for instance) would go a long way to relieve law enforcement of having to arrest people for victimless crimes and maybe, just maybe, lower tensions. However the drug war is a vehicle for law enforcement to receive extra revenue. Legalizing drugs would most likely significantly lower inner city crime IMO and free law enforcement to concentrate on crimes such as murder, robbery, etc.
     
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    The cops that do this, when it is not justified are evil beings. And unacceptable. Blacks who kill white cops who had nothing to do with a murder of a black, are just as evil and unacceptable.

    One of the reasons this happens all too often, is because of the war on drugs, which has turned our police into the Gestapo that are enforcing stupid laws against the most basic god given right, personal sovereignty. The militarization of the police forces is due to this immoral war on drugs. Americans have lost rights due to this war on drugs. Get rid of the war on drugs and you would solve much of these killings by cops. For there would be no reason to stop most people if you didn't think you might find drugs or cash on them.

    When you start arresting people for exercising a basic right, personal sovereignty, busting down their doors, searching their cars, their persons, on a treasure hunt for drugs, this creates an environment where cops are hated, not respected. When you are treated like a Jew in Nazi Germany, it gets old, it created hatred and anger, and it destroys respect for the rule of law. What kinda idiot would ever make exercising personal sovereignty over ones body and consciousness a crime that sends you to prison? Probably the same idiots who stopped representing the American people, unless you are a rich elite.
     
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    lol!!!!!!

    Have fun with that one. I'm sure you're just going to be chock full of applications for that particular job.

    Sorry dude, but if black guys show up on the cop radar, they're going to be targeted. Are they unarmed? Who cares? You still can't name anybody that might think black lives really matter.

    The reason you can't do that is because they really don't matter. Their lives are worthless.

    and for the record, so is mine. My life is only worth something to me and my family and friends.

    That's just reality, so stop with this black lives matter nonsense. It's nonsense.
     
  15. RPA1

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    But the Castile shooting did not involve an unarmed person and, the officer told him to show his hands...he did not and reached for his gun. My solution actually is to investigate all shootings and jail those who are guilty...including law enforcement. The cop that shot that poor black guy in the back is now serving a 25 year sentence. Why can't some of you people at least try to be objective?
     
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    I have seen many BLM speakers today on CNN, I have to say that is one stupid group with some weird ideas, they sound like the black version of the Bundy family

    what's next, they take over a federal building?

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    mine... is two fold

    educate cops to de-escalate when posible

    educate in our schools not to resit cops (but also teach them not to talk to them without a lawyer as anything you say can and will be used against you, cops are not your friends), always be polite.... not angry loud obnoxiousness and you will get through it as painlessly as possible

    I would show real cop videos of the proper way and the improper way to act when stopped by police

    and I guess a third... end the war on drugs, stop funneling billions into our local gangs

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  18. Ronstar

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    get rid of the bad cops
     
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    Yes...good point.

    I agree...Make drugs legal, treat them like alcohol. Make it illegal for minors, standardize strengths and content which would preclude overdoses and deaths. They would be available and affordable. (like tobacco, alcohol and caffeine) which could preclude criminal enterprise due to falsely inflated prices because they are currently illegal.

    Correct, we have a right to what we put into our own bodies. If drugs were legal then those who break the law because of being high need to be arrested and given stiff sentences. Other than that, law enforcement should not be saddled with protecting people from themselves.
     
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    cops are city employees, so have fun!

    See, your ideas are all fine, but reality intrudes every single time a candle fizzles out in that cognitive dissonance.

    You want to know reality? Stop dreaming and start figuring out something that can actually be done.

    [video=youtube;QwCCj8Dx-gk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwCCj8Dx-gk[/video]
     
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    when you say minors, I say that should mean those under 18, not under 21

    even then I am not sure giving the minor a criminal record is the answer, that is doing more harm then good

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    Why do you think law enforcement likes bad cops?
     
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    Right now I think alcohol consumption age left up to individual States. I would leave it up to the states.

    A minor is a legal determination. Perhaps if these drugs were legal, more would be known about there effects on minors. We need to be objective when it comes to drugs but, it is impossible now when so much emotion is involved because of their illegality.
     
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    they don't like them, they just haven't removed them for many possible reasons
     
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    What would you say are those reasons?
     

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