In light of AboveAlpha's nomination by DennisTate...

It's not the policy that's the problem. Because the government won't let him have complete control, he can't just make up bogus policy. The real issue is that, if you're president, the things you do and say effect the whole world. For example, even before he could be president, Trump made a remark about NATO, and it shook the world economy. If Trump responds erratically to Twitter feed or makes a "sarcastic" threat, our country could be on the verge of an unnecessary nuclear war or make enemies with past allies. He can't be worse than any other presidents if you look at solely policy. Sure, he won't even be worse than Hillary, they'll both be bad. But at least Hillary won't tick off nuclear nations or make death threats to world political figures.

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When your first amendment rights are limited when it puts someone else at harm, that doesn't violate the first amendment, does it? Not being able to say fire in a movie theatre doesn't violate the first amendment because it puts others at risk. Keeping guns where they'll be used doesn't violate the right to bear arms because allowing them everywhere puts people at harms way, it puts them at risk.

 

That's a false comparison. You proscribed an artificially narrow place where guns are appropriately used. The restriction you place on the right to bear arms would be like saying, "enough of this religion stuff - you can have absolute freedom of religion, but only while you're in church, and you can only have churches is state authorized areas. No praying outside of church." It's flat out asinine.

In case you missed it, the 2nd amendment says that, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Do you know what infringe means? We can limit the improper use of rights - just as you can't yell fire in a theater, you can't fire your gun into a crowd. It's the action that is the crime - what you want to do is criminalize the peaceful, lawful, and orderly exercise of Constitutional rights.

 

No, what do you want to do as an officer in my military? I ask all the super Hooah's this

What job do you want to spend your days writing Op orders for?

 

That is EXACTLY what I also suspect that he will do.

I would suggest that he comes out with some serious numbers
for LEGAL immigration from Mexico and the rest of South America
in the event that he is elected President and some sort of wall or
other structure, (such as a massive ocean water desalination facility plus fish pond),
is built that greatly decreases ILLEGAL immigration.


http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/449323-donald-trump-campaign-film-cartel-land.html
The Donald Trump campaign and the film "Cartel Land."
Drug cartels seem to have a great deal of power over the elected officials in Mexico.

If...… The Donald's supporters will view this film and become more well informed a lot of good things could result from this.

For one thing..... this could put pressure on Mexico that results in the release of Dr. Jose Mireles!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel_Land

My wife is from Ecuador and I would love to see The Donald come out with a plan to significantly INCREASE LEGAL immigration from Mexico and South America after that wall is built.

This might be a great way to steal much of the thunder that his opponents seem to have at this time?

 

This terrifies me that you want to be an officer in my military. If this is your stance- stripping freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution, you do not belong anywhere close to my soldiers. They will sniff you out at West Point for sure.

 

I want to help stabilize regions that require American aid, fight for this country, and ultimately help lead this nation to greatness.

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Are you a very religious person, might I ask?

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At this point though, no matter what he says, I dont think it would help him. He's already pissed off half the world. What's done is done. Even if he switches to be more moderate, it won't change what he's said and done in the past.

 

You will not succeed through the vigorous foreign and domestic operations at West Point with your view of stripping United States Citizens of our rights than cannot be infringed upon. In fact, and I say this with all seriousness, your superiors will order you a psych eval for your tyrannical views. That's unsafe to have in our military. My job as a solider is literally to defend the constitution. You want the complete opposite. You would not be helping anyone with that frame of mind; and I am very offended that you want to bring such anti-American values to this organization I've given so much for. However, I'm 100% confident they will ELS you and you will be unfit for service.

No, I am not religious. I am agnostic. Why do you ask?

 

Foreign Policy and Immigration:
I mostly agree except on the issue of language. Official languages should be left to the states to properly reflect demographics. It's not exactly a burden to print out government forms in different languages, we do it all the time. That being said, free English classes for immigrants and refugees is a good idea.

War and Peace:
I too am an advocate of unification with Canada, it's the logical move to make geopolitically and economically. I also agree with pulling back our troops and taking a more militarily isolationist stance, only intervening to defend actual allies. Where I disagree is the setting up of puppet states. I agree with the concept and am willing to accept the annexation of strategic locations if needed however the ME is the result of indirect rule via puppets. Ya it worked in Germany and Japan... We also still have occupation forces in those countries (if scaled back). This runs contrary to your position on troop deployments so I can only assume you're nive on how regime change works/fails. You shouldn't take that as too much of an insult, it's true of our current leaders as well.

Free Trade:
Imposing American laws on American companies operating outside our borders is a violation of the host nation's sovereignty. Your entire platform on this point is a legal impossibility and if you were to try to enforce your will either the host nation would ban operations or the company would pull out of the US. It's also worth noting that 'outsourcing' is just a BS political tool, the US is the number 1 world destination for INSOURCING. The real problem is automation. Alas, "Your job is gone forever," isn't going to win any elections and so politicians conger up '90s images of Indian call centers and blame outsourcing despite that not really being an issue since the turn of the century. Any effort to punish outsourcers won't work either as the reason for outsourcing (expensive American labor) remains. Companies, no longer having a price advantage with foreign workers, will simply find it cost effective to automate. The only thing you'd have accomplished is saddling developing economies with higher unemployment numbers.

Energy and Oil:
Unless you're ready to nationalize oil, (which Is something I'm totally for if you do) you'll still have to buy the stuff on the open market. There's a reason OPEC can (*)(*)(*)(*) us up even though most of our oil comes from our own sources, we don't actually own it.

Gun Control:
No, just no. Even the most anti-gun Dems (at least the ones that can actually get elected) don't pull that crap. Even if you repeal the 2nd to remove the Constitutional issues, you wouldn't have the political clout to get such restrictive laws passed. Being a fascist doesn't help either, Hitler used the exact same logic you did and nobody outside the military could resist him once his tyranny became obvious becuase they'd all been disarmed and that's historical baggage that WILL be brought up.

Crime and Police:
If the rest of your platform wasn't so authoritarian, sure.

Drugs:
Prohibition. Does. Not. Work.

Civil Rights:
Agreed.

Economy and Taxes:
Mostly agree however the ban on imports is a no go. Our lack of rare metals such as lithium makes the self sufficiency you're dreaming about impossible.

Education:
K-12 just needs to go away period. It's another 'outsourcing' issue, a political tool to get votes but utterly meaningless. It's an assembly line producing technically literate factory workers. It's totally irrelevant to the modern world and there's nothing you can do to fix it. Come back when you have a totally new education system planned and we'll talk.

Healthcare:
I oppose abortions but otherwise I agree.

I might vote for you if you had an opponent like Trump but otherwise, hell no. That being said, you're still young. With refinement, you're platform might be something to consider by the time you hit 35.

 

This is a spectacular response to HailVictory's platform.

I would be honoured to see what you can do with mine:

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...tional-leader-canadas-conservative-party.html
Dennis Tate for National Leader of Canada's Conservative Party.

 

Your most likely right.

AA

 

I ask if youre religious because you seem to hold up the Constitution like it's a Bible. Tell me, how can you justify rights if you are agnostic. They are God-given, after all. Furthermore, my real point is that the Founders were men, like you and me, prone to error and mistakes. Why not wake up to the possibility that perhaps the Founders got it wrong, and did not intend for people to own fully automatic weapons capable of mowing down crowds? I'm just saying that you're kind of taking their word on faith simply because they wrote it down. These are the same people who held slaves, believed in white superiority, thought women shouldn't be in politics, and thought leeches were medicine. We've come a long way, and I think that may also mean that the Constitution needs to evolve as well.

 

Very thoughtful response.

Now, for the puppet states remark. I don't intend to set up a puppet state. I mean what we did for Japan economically and structurally. We built up their cities, set up their governments, and stabilized their economy. After that was done, we should have left. But alas, we are still there. Anyways, I mean that we should build up the country and set them on the right track, and then pull our troops back and leave their politics to their own devices. Essentially, do the developing part for developing nations, and then leave them a developed country. Rather than just aimlessly shoot people and throw charity money at them.

As for outsourcing. It's not really outsourcing that I have a problem with, it's the lack of American work ethic that we used to have maybe 50 years ago. Now, some Indian kid or a robot will work 10x harder with half or no pay (if its a machine) and so we've effectively lost our job to that. I've seen how hard they work in those countries. They really do, make us looks like a bunch of pansies. They do the same job for less pay and 10x the quality (maybe not a Chinese sweatshop worker, but an Indian coder for sure). Yes, granted, it's not really that much of an issue, but if we want to have economic sustainability which makes us less dependent on the rest of the world, outsourcing has to go. Its not like companies can't afford American labor. Old Navy makes so much money every year, and you're telling me that they can't afford to move that work over to the US?

As for economy, yea I know that we need some imports like lithium and such, but we should really try to get as many things as possible to be made in America. India is pushing for the same thing, and the fact is, they have better workers. Modi is trying to improve the Made in India program, that funds things manufactured or produced in the country to make the country more self-sustaining and bring up its development. They are a developing country and they are doing this. We are a highly developed nation but still rely on a vast amount of imports.

The education system I have in mind is a common core, national standards thing, but up until the end of your sophomore year in high school. Junior and senior year, you do vocational study (so if you want to be an engineer, you take engineering classes). Then you go to the Military Academy and do your thing like any other college education, and you do your service. After that, you get a job. K-12 is dumb because it doesn't teach what really matters. And its not like you remember anything from school if you aren't a technical person. So that's why I would rather have high school be when you choose your job and then study it and leave the lower grades for more basic knowledge.

Anyways, thanks for taking the time to read that entire platform, it is really long. You had a well informed post, so a tip of the hat to you.

 

Oh, no worries. I posted my own platform a few weeks back. http://www.politicalforum.com/entry.php?b=1837 I was a fascist like yourself at your age, so I get where you're coming from. You might not move away from it as I did but you'll start seeing a lot of the flaws I did the more you learn about the world. Keep this up and maybe you'll actually go places, far too many of our current leaders are just failed businessman that used politics as a consolation prize. Idealistic, throughout over years platforms are a rare thing (Trump being the glaringly obvious example).

 

The constitution is not a religious doctrine. My rights which cannot be infringed is essentially religious text. It means whatever your Nazi Germany tactics try and get you, you will fail.

You're not going to take orders very well. You are very young and very ignorant of the ways of the military. Also, just you so know, the military doesn't operate under the constitution. We protect it. However we are bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You are in for a seriously rude awakening. After your incompetence discharge prior to commission, you will wonder "why". It's because the military doesn't put up with individuals with Nazi-type train of thought. That is of course while your "paperwork gets delayed" a few months and your stuck cleaning latrines for 12 hour shifts.

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Kid thinks he's going to be a leader in my military by going to west point. Lol they're gonna give him a psych eval and boot him out before red phase even starts (highly doubt this kid gets in). He would be a great tyrannical dictator though!

 

He's not crazy, nor are his views incompatible as the Constitution as it can be changed. As long as he doesn't suggest a coup and has the grades, he'll get in. The military isn't exactly a bastion of liberal democracy, an authoritarian will fit right in so long as they follow orders. I think your letting your political bias replace your brain here.

 

Great, a barracks lawyer. Let me guess, you're a SEAL sniper Ranger Marine?

lol get lost

 

What, don't like being called out?

 

I've done 7 manpower studies at West Point. I don't care if you commissioned there, I know more about it than you. Your opinions mean about as much to me as this plastic fork. The kid won't make it through their commissioning program. Sorry

 

Lol buddy, my mom works there right now. Their motto is duty, honor, country. You have neither the duty nor the honor to go there. Maybe the country part. Perhaps a little of the duty, but no honor. You have no respect, no character, and forget that you serve the American people, not the American Constitution. It is your job to be non-partisan, to protect the KKK and the Black Panthers, the Left and the Right. If your president sends you to Antarctica, you go, and if your president sends you to Russia, you go. If you don't follow orders, you're done. And if you do something wrong, no excuses. Go Army, Beat Navy.

 

Thanks for defending me. You're actually not supposed to be partisan at all, you aren't meant to be political there, just another soldier. So I am not actually allowed to say any of my political beliefs there anyways. Because you're supposed to serve the American people, no matter what they tell you to do, even if it means it goes against your beliefs, something I dont think ArmySoldier really gets.

 

Haha kid, you're gonna get smoke checked for days. You have no idea what my military is. You'll be the ones that break in "zero week". Also, my job is to kill. It's not to be "non-partisan". The non-partisanship (which you will experience in your week of being in my military) comes from the UCMJ 9.209 which has been updated. I can now go on social media and be partisan

You know absolutely nothing. You have no idea how to follow orders. I can't tell you how many keyboard warriors like yourself duck when they hear the pew pew pew. I'm glad you brought up the orders. I'm currently SA-ing some as we speak. How many soldiers should I detail for SLAC training? I was thinking 6.

 

He's just another internet tough guy.

 

HailVictory.... I have a concept in mind for you to consider that
can lead to your being able to help at least 10X if not 100X more Americans
than I think you could help if you do end up in the USA military.

I want to sell you this concept for one dollar..... just to make it legal....
but I need to put the following symbol on this concept.....

© Dennis Patrick Tate 2016

HailVictory becomes an actor playing the role of himself....
the set is designed for the year 2036.... (specifically January 2037 when you
are inaugurated as President of the USA).....

Once you become President you find out about lots of technology that has been kept secret from
the general public......

You find out that you can go back in time.... and initiate new time lines.......
Some of them you decide to set in motion from 2017.... some of them you
decide to initiate from 1936.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...nce-unified-theory-modern-world-problems.html
CanSo Dollars... could finance a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems?!

 

Your wife is from Ecuador???

I have been there.

Very nice country....very bad memories.

AA

 

Yes... I was there from January of 2001 to August of 2002.

I was in Quito virtually the whole time. I taught English as a second language at
"Escuela del Futuro" and at "Universidad Technologica de Israel."

I also worked at a rose plantation. I loved it there.