Should We Take Care of the Poor?

So is everyone who is making the argument against immigrants

 

Food stamp glitch sparks looting at Walmart

http://nypost.com/2013/10/15/food-stamp-glitch-sparks-legal-looting-at-walmart/

Weaning the abled body from these benefits is going to be tricky, and I'm certain that very gradually is the only way to do it successfully.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/15/food-stamp-glitch-sparks-legal-looting-at-walmart/

Trump Effect. Instead of a '20 White House Run, Fauxcahontas Could Get Scalped in '18

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/01/poll-elizabeth-warren-vulnerable-in-2018/

 

First........why annex two places that are NOT America? What is your point? Why would you even throw that red herring into the stew? Secondly, Social Security was thrust upon America during FDR's new deal. Americans pay dearly into that fund every paycheck. It's capped, both for contributions AND benefits, so don't bring that lame game in here about getting rid of the contributions cap.

For the most part, SSI is not welfare, it's an earned commodity even if it's mandated. Calling that a welfare program is just plainly wrong. Medicaid is welfare, no two ways about it. But I really get pizzed off when people call social security "entitlement programs" when it is in fact NOT for the most part. Sure, some skate in on some loopholes who have not worked enough quarters to draw..........but 99% do.

 

It's snowing! Snowflakes for all!

 

I would think that the Chinese proverb "If you give a man a bowl of rice, he will eat for a day. If you teach him to grow rice, he will eat for a lifetime" applies. Yes, it is important to help people who are unable to help themselves, but simply throwing money at them isn't really helping. You are just delaying the inevitable.

We need to put more money in jobs training and education programs.

 

Except they weren't taught that stuff, which is why they are homeless now.

Why do you think there is such a big homeless problem? And it's a very singular homeless problem in contrast with third world countries, which is mostly children and senior citizens. The people I see on the streets are mostly working age adults.

My theory is that they were failed as children. If one of my grown children was homeless, I'd consider that a failure as a parent. Expand that outwards to every parent of every bum out there begging for money or sleeping on sidewalks. and I'd say that we, as a society, are failing our children. That failure is not only hidden through government programs that don't allow children to be homeless, but sometimes even encouraged because of those government programs. Think of them as a failure on the part of society, and you will see why I say it is hidden. Hidden because many children are destined to become homeless long before they actually hit the streets.

 

Really? Jesus never mentioned being forced to give. In fact, weren't the tax collectors seen as sinners? Giving comes from within and I don't need some bureaucrat to tell me who I have to help.

 

Only in America is this even debated. Newsflash: Most poor people don't choose poverty. It's not a lifestyle choice.

And now we're at the crux of the matter. You must believe that black people on welfare are mooching. What about the whites on welfare?

I figured you were a troll. In case you're not and just genuinely stupid, social security is your money. It's the money the government takes from your paycheck every week.

I assume you're a troll looking for angry responses. If not, then just know that welfare is necessary.

If you want to talk about people taking advantage of the taxpayer, let's consider the wealthy who use loopholes exclusive to their class to avoid most or all taxes.

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Technically, Puerto Rico is an American territory. Puerto Ricans are American citizens and they use US dollars.

 

As a religious person, it is a very fundamental principle for me that the weak, the sick, the poor, the marginalized should be taken care of. Not only that, I seek to identify myself with that segment of society; i.e., the meek, because it is among them that God resides.

The State, despite what it may claim, is always oppressing the weak because it is intoxicated by power, and the subject of its power is always the weak and the marginalized section of society. A Prophet is risen among the weak and the marginalized; while Pharaoh personifies the arrogance and cruelty of the State and the powerful establishment.

Socialists claim to fight for justice for the weak; but more often than not when they seize the reins of power they end up oppressing the very people in whose name they took power. The Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Castro’s Cuba, Pol Pot, etc., are all perfect examples of this phenomenon.

In my view, it is not the industrialists, feudalists, or capitalists who are oppressing the weak and the poor; it is the State machinery.

 

Shouldn't it be the "teach a man to fish" policy, rather than giving him the fish?

 

Yes it should, and if he can't be bothered to learn then he deserves to starve to death.

 

The thugs are the ones who need to change, who need to change their behaviors. They need to reach out to the better people outside their prejudiced communities.

 

If they change, will that change your impressions of them?

 

You're right. Still, it is as much about WHO the money helps, as it is about how much money is spent.

 

Of course, but so far, the thug/gangsta communities have done virtually nothing worthwhile to clean themselves up.

Still all we hear 99% of the time is the same #BLM rubbish that states only Blacks should police themselves.

 

not nearly to the extent that education and age do.

 

Two things that can change.

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You hear what you want to hear.

 

So get them into foster care or an orphanage SO THEY CAN. What don't you understand here?

Drug and alcohol abuse mainly, mental illiness, crime just to name a few reason.

 

Are you saying their lifestyle choices have no bearing on their homelessness?

Sure there are some whites in poverty and some that are mooching the system but when you compare the rate of poverty between whites and blacks you see where is the problems.

Except for many in the low income groups where their FICA contributions are reimbursed through the EITC and in fact many end up making money off the tax and FICA system and still get to collect SS benefits.

Then how do the top 1% manage to pay almost 40% of income taxes and the top 25% almost 90% of income taxes while the bottom 50% get tax loopholes like the EITC and pay virtually no income taxes?

 

You can't talk about averages across genetically different populations meaningfully because there will be differences based on genetic differentiation.

 

Teach american liberals respect. Then they can get a job and stop worrying about Donald Trump first few days in office.

 

Hello Borat.

The poor don't beg for 1% increases in Nato spending. But from viewing this forum. You are busy defending yourselves from american liberals.

Give it time. When things have settled down. Try again.

 

There's a good arab saying, the dogs bark but the caravan goes on. That's in regards to your "when liberals attack" comments.

As far as the NATO and the 1% contribution deficit is concerned, not every aspect of the US foreign policy is driven by the poor's demands or their indifference

 

Sacha Baron Cohen wouldn't be impressed. Perhaps you should ask him next time he visits America and mocks your poor ghetto people with Ali G.

 

So we'll just make clones then?