A Time to Kill

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by bricklayer, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Please provide the exact federal legal reference where "our body of law" declares the "sanctity of life".
     
  2. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Oh, the IRONY!

    Name all of the "god given rights"!

    Where does your god give you the right to freedom of religion?

    Where does your god give you the right to feeedom of speech?

    Where does your god give you the right to the presumption of innocence?

    Where does your god give you the right to freedom from discrimination?

    None of the above are "god given rights"!
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Except when your bible explicitly teaches how to perform an abortion and your god orders his chosen people to commit late term abortions, right?
     
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    do you think wishing death upon another member might be a wee bit over the line?
     
  5. Whaler17

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    Explain why nearly all homicides are illegal.

    But here;s one law:


    http://www.ushistory.org/DECLARATION/document/

    "We hold these truths to be self evident....." you should know the rest.
    Inalienable right to life.


     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah just making stuff up and posting it isn't convincing.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Everyone, other than those who were home schooled from what I can gather, knows that the DoI is NOT a "law" and is NOT part of the Law of the Land either.

    Want to try for Strike 2?
     
  8. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that what your bible consists of? Made up stuff that isn't convincing?

    Your bible provides an abortion procedure in Numbers 5:11-21 and your god orders his chosen people to perform late term abortions on pregnant women in Hosia 13:16 and in 2 Kings 15:16. Speaking of abortions through miscarriages he does that in Hosia 9:14.

    And that doesn't even go anywhere near the times your god orders the murders of innocent babies and small children in 1 Samual 15:3 and Psalms 137:8-9.

    No, you can't make that stuff up because it was already made up in your bible.
     
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    All homicide laws bear the sanctity of life out. If you want t deny it, meh doesn't matter to me.
     
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    There are exceptions to homicides being illegal. And trust me....you WANT some of them to be legal.
     
  12. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol: Strike 2!


    Except that they don't do anything of the sort!

    The term "sanctity of life" is a bogus religious term.

    Some homicide laws even allow someone to take the life of another under certain circumstances with no penalty whatsoever. Just look up state sanctioned self defense laws if you don't believe me.

    So once again your profound ignorance of the Law of the Land has exposed that there is no "sanctity of life" to be found.

    Want to go for Strike 3?

    :roflol:
     
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    None involve any reason at all you can come up with...except the one irrational one, abortion.

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    Interesting, wasn't me though.... WAS IT? :omg:
     
  14. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Self defense is not a rational and justifiable reason to kill someone? :eekeyes:
     
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    Self defense is not involved most of the time in abortion situations.
    You do realize that legally, self defense requires imminent threat of serious physical harm or death right?
    Yeah I know you will want to say that most pregnancies fit that bill, but that is silly, they don't!

     
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    Strike 3!

    You just blew away your own bogus 'sanctity of life" nonsense by admitting that it is perfectly fine to kill in self defense.

    :roflol:
     
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    No reason needs to be given. Abortion is legal.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Ironic coming from a theist that can't tell the difference between the supreme Law of the Land and their bible.
     
  19. BodiSatva

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    Just admit that the analogy was horrible and move on...
     
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    I would never make a stupid argument like an embryo is like a slave. A slave is a person and deserves human rights... an embryo does not.
     
  21. FoxHastings

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    No, the "just leave it on a shelf" analogy is good for those who believe the fetus is NOT part of the woman it's in....

    If that was true then the fetus could be taken out of the woman and set on the shelf to grow by itself.....why would it have to be in the woman if it's not part of her?
     
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    so you are disputing the fact that the unborn are human? And you call those that question man made global warming science deniers
    It comes down to this either the unborn are human or they aren't
    If you claim they aren't you are a complete science denier worse then the flat earth society
    and if you claim they are then you are establishing two classes of humans ones with rights ones with out. no different then what was done with slaves, humans but with no rights
    so tell me which one is it are the unborn human or not?
     
  23. BodiSatva

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    Your argument fails because a fetus can not survive without her help. A grown human can. A grown human can also get off the shelf if it wants. A fetus not part of her body placed on the shelf will die. Your analogy simply sucks on all levels. Just come up with a better one that actually works logically... not that big a deal.

     
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    The unborn is human with very limited rights but not the right to life if the mother chooses to terminate it legally. That said, there are instances where born humans lose rights as well... and rights are not universal. We all have limitations to rights like religion and speech. The unborn humans just have a lot less rights than born humans.
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    :roflol: OMGAWD! You got that load of hogswallop from the post of mine you quoted?????Hilarious!


    Exactly WHERE in that post did I say the unborn aren't human?
    Answer: NOWHERE....


    Are your "arguments" so weak you have to pretend another poster posted something which obviously isn't there ???:roflol:
     

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