Sweden and Fake News

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  1. Latherty

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    Excellent. Consensus reached :)
     
  2. Stevew

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    Perhaps if we multiplied the population of Sweden up to 300 million, you could make an apt comparison.
     
  4. freakonature

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    Their latest strategy is out breeding their host countries 4x.
     
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    For Topical Use Only Well-Known Member

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    If you repeat the lie that Sweden is the rape capital of the world hack off a leg and kick yourself in the balls until death occurs. Don't forget to film it for social media so you at least contribute something of value to existence, eh.
     
  6. Chris Knight

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  7. Caligula

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    This whole comparison thing is pretty senseless. The legal definition of rape varies considerably from one country to another. What's considered rape in Sweden is considered harassment or insult in another country. Completely apples and oranges.
    Sweden has an extremely broad definition of "rape" and many cases are recorded as rape that are categorized as something else in other countries.
    A Swedish wife might be raped once a week by her husband for a year: 56 cases of rape.
    The same incident in another country counts as one case. This makes comparisons highly inaccurate
    Sure, if one reads Gatestone and/or Breitbart and is simple-minded and sheepish enough to believe it, yeah "rape capital of the world" (They told me, it must be true).

    "[...] the number of rapes reported annually in the country per 100,000 citizens has been relatively steady for almost a decade.
    In 2016 there were 67 reported rapes per 100,000 people, 60 in 2015, 69 in 2014, 63 in 2013, 66 in 2012, 69 in 2011, 64 in 2010 and 2009, 59 in 2008 and 52 in 2007.
    Those figures show there was actually a 12 percent dip in the number of rapes reported in Sweden in 2015 – the year the country received a record 163,000 asylum applications, at the peak of the refugee crisis."

    http://www.thelocal.se/20170221/why-sweden-is-not-the-rape-capital-of-the-world


    What I find rather ridiculous is this typical behaviour of some users who, for some strange reason, think they know better than a user from Sweden who seems to be very well aware of what's going on his home country.
    What exactly drives these self-proclaimed wannbe experts?
     
  8. Stevew

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    Ah yes, liberals, dems, and liberal media know that all too well. Keep up the good work of democrats continuing to lose power since 2010.

    Steve
     
  9. Lesh

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    A brief redirect.

    There was no Swedish terror attach "the other day" as Trump claimed.

    It was a LIE. He's spouting FAKE NEWS
     
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    The fact is that Sweden is regarded as one of the sexual harassment capitals of Europe according to recent data: "The data shows that in Sweden and Denmark, 80 to 100 per cent of people said they were sexually assaulted as adults – the highest anywhere in the continent" (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6800901.html).

    Now it is also recognised and acknowledged that the majority of rape that occurs in Sweden is from foreign background residents which make up 77% of the rapes from a 2011 publication: "Though Muslims are only 6% of the Swedish population, the immigrant population (which is mostly Muslim) is responsible for perpetrating 77% of all rapes. Due to the sensitive nature of these facts, over the last few years Sweden has stopped publishing figures of the religion and ethnicity of rapists." (http://the-unpopular-opinions.tumblr...t-rate-of-rape)

    Looking at Muslim immigration, there has been hundreds of thousands of refugees (mostly Muslim) resettled in Sweden over a few years which is around 3 to 4% of the population (https://www.migrationsverket.se/Engl...tatistics.html). I shudder to think what the statistics are now.

    So certainly there is a strong indication that a correlation exists between rape/sexual harassment and immigration in Sweden.
     
  12. logical1

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    Why does Sweden, Germany and other countries suppress the criminal activity of muslim immigrants????? To what advantage????
     
  13. Lesh

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    exactly and it had nothing to do with Muslim immigration

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wrong.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786
     
  14. TomFitz

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    Feared?

    The only people doing the fearing are right wingers in America, who are being fed a steady diet of exaggerated stories about minor incidents in Sweden and no other news about the country at all.

    From this, they form a fantasy version of a country in turmoil and civil unrest, which is completely false.

    Which is what the government of Sweden had to point out to the Clown Prince last weekend when he fell for one of these faked stories.
     
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    I live in Germany. There is no suppression of crimes committed by non-Germans. I can give you data and reliable sources, but they are in German.
    Maybe you should look for better sources and should less rely on propaganda websites and blogs that only give you opinionated, one sided info.
     
  16. Stevew

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    Just an exercise in logic here, if it is in fact suppressed, then how would you know it isn't suppressed?

    Steve
     
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    You would have to ask that question user "logical1" who made the claim that there is suppressed data regarding criminal activities by muslim immigrants.
    Where does he have that info from?
    I for one don't believe in conspiracy theories and don't suffer from this rather weird "government paranoia." (If you know what I mean.)

    If something is 100% suppressed, it's suppressed, e.g. the Pentagon Papers were suppressed until Ellsberg did what he did, US war crimes in Iraq were suppressed until Wikileaks, the full range of NSA activities was suppressed until Snowden, etc.
    Theoretically, every government, authority, or agency can suppress things they don't want the public or a certain group of people to be aware of.
    But even totalitarian regimes have problems, especially in this day and age with tons of info at our fingertips, to suppress info.
    In my experience, almost everything comes to light sooner or later. When will the Kennedy files be declassified?
     
  18. Stevew

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    Sometimes I follow the old axiom, "follow the money" in order to determine where the truth MAY be. Countries have a distinct obligation to their economy and tourism etc, to make their country appear as best they can.

    Steve
     
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    Well, comparing Sweden as a country to the US is a tad disingenuous. A better comparison would be to compare them to say, Georgia. They have similar population size. I doubt that this is fair, given the demographic differences, so, also not useful. More useful is to compare them to like populations in Europe. Belerus is close enough. So compare the issues in Sweden to the issues in Belerus. Seems quite problematic for the Swedes.
     
  20. freakonature

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    Why do you suppose that "rape capital" and Sweden are even in the same sentence? Are you trying to deflect the actual point by changing the argument to semantics? Has rape went up in Sweden since the mass immigration? Have the original citizens of Sweden began to rape at an astonishing level, or are the immigrants responsible for this increase in rape occurrences?
     
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    Trumpf's cult members don't even own passports. They have little if ever chance of visiting Europe. So they mentally create this terrible place across the Atlantic, something to shun and build walls against. They are a danger to themselves and others.
     
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    AWESOME! That's a lot like what Clinton said during the election! Keep up the good work of continuing the democrat power losses since 2010.

    Steve
     
  23. Latherty

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    So far.

    You've chosen to import a permanent underclass which not only brings with it social pathology but will place an unsustainable burden on your generous social benefits.
     
  25. TomFitz

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    You are wasting your time.

    These people are steeped in deep fear and suspicion of anything remotely "foreign". They are fed a steady diet of fake news and exaggerated stories about your country (and the "outside world") in tabloids, trashy blogs, fake news site, right wing talk radio and Fox News.

    As you correctly pointed out, the image that they are being fed bears no resemblance to the place you live in.

    But it does correspond neatly with the stereotypes they believe and it validates their prejudices and reinforces their parochial fears.
     

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