Coal mining begins seeing revival as Trump gives industry hope

President Trump is delivering on his promises to provide energy for America and create jobs by rolling back the long, long, list of anti-business anti-prosperity regulations introduced by Obama which were designed to cripple the coal industry and by extension the American energy sector.

Bravo, well done, keep it up.

MAGA

 

Good stuff. Keep on hammering away at those retarded policies that Obama designed specifically to harm the economy.

 

I'm a firm believer in us exploiting every energy resource we have.... Safely...

Jobs, & striving for energy independence baby!

 

polluting water for a handful of people to have a garbage job that basically kills them, for a completely obsolete and dirty technology. Man, right winger are not smart at all. No wonder why these people are struggling, they refuse to adapt

 

That makes a lot of sense. They should get on welfare so they can live in ghettoes, suck from the taxpayer teet, never have a future other than what some rich elitist regressive decides is best for them. Maybe even have a few extra kids to stack up the welfare payments. I mean after all coal is obsolete, no one even uses that stuff anymore. Even better, why not stop using electricity and go back to candles, piping is so evil start using outhouses again... Hell, caves are stronger than houses and cheaper...

 

ABSOLUTELY!
Who needs that Damn EPA with their sissy concern for air you can breathe and water you can drink?
The Damn EPA was brought about by that pinko liberal.................Nixon!

Sure, the future lies with coal?

 

bahahaha
The era of coal as a sustainable job facilitator is over and done with. You can blame Fracking and the price of Natural Gas for that one.

 

Fracking, now THERE's a method of energy production w/o any type of serious ecological concerns.

Nope, not a one.

 

No doubt. When are we going to bring back those buggy whip maker jobs?

Besides, I don't think requiring companies clean up after themselves to be an unnecessary burden.

 

Looks like someone is experiencing cognitive dissonance over the inevitability of Communism and the workers revolution. Turns out the workers don't want what you're selling, go figure.

 

Oh it has it's own issues (though not nearly the ones that Coal has), mostly due to bad workers on the cement casing side, and minor earthquakes (the biggest issue IMO), but comparative to Coal, it's positively green.

The local switch-board operators union will definitely have something to say

And no, it isn't, but tell that to the companies who have to pay for it.

 

Cognitive dissonance lol! That's Bill Nye's term for when you realize scientists are fudging data to get a desired result.

 

This is the confusing part. You say socialism around a Republican and they go ape (*)(*)(*)(*), unless it involves socializing the cost of doing business. Then, it's all good. This is who we are, now. Taxpayers help businesses pay to create & sell their product and they keep the profits. Sweet deal. I want some of that gravy.

Don't want to pay your labor force? No worries, tax payers will give your workers food stamps.
Don't want to clean up your mess? No worries, who needs clean water, anyway?

 

Socialize Losses, Privatize Profits. Great work if your big enough to get it.

 

Haha.

Backwards into regress!!!!

 

But guys don't forget that the alternative here, according to what we've seen from the Left, was to dump billions of tax payer dollars into junk "green technology" companies owned by people friendly to the Obama Administration for which we did not get a single usable product or advancement.

How did that happen?

 

Except that your almost entirely wrong about that. Yes a couple of funded companies went under, but the advancements in green tech have been leaps and bounds. Solar Panel prices are the lowest they've ever been and dropping, self driving cars are getting better and cheaper, battery advancements are slow, but consistent. Countries are powering their infrastructure with green tech more and more everyday (Germany gets closer and closer to a full day of green fuel, while other countries are doing the same if better)

There is an entirely new economic sector that is springing up around us. Every major country is investing billions into green tech.

I mean, i know it's not going to be a full switch-over anytime soon, but it's only on an upward trajectory.

 

An argument can be made that with technological improvements, coal can be as safe as fracking is all I'm getting at.

 

Those "billions" are far outnumbered by the tax revenue on the more than $32 BILLION that has been loaned to companies like Tesla, which paid back back it's $465 MILLION loan NINE YEARS EARLY:

https://www.energy.gov/lpo/tesla

As of September, 2015, nearly $1 BILLION in interest has already been re-payed, and an additional $5 BILLION is projected over the next decade.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/obama-has-done-more-for-clean-energy-than-you-think/

"Still, the loan program is not what it once was, helping to turbocharge a clean-energy economy. But it did seed the ground for an energy revolution with some 30 major projects so far, 20 of which are already producing clean power or churning out clean vehicles. All that is left to fight about is the speed at which clean energy will grow.
As of September, 2015, nearly $1 BILLION in iterest has already been re-payed, and an additional $5 BILLION is projected over the next decade. "

You can continue to s@!t all over renewable energy. That won't make coal come roaring back as a usable energy source. That horse has left the barn. Get over it.

 

True. But most of the technological improvements usually mean automation which doesn't really employ the same level of humans as previous.

 

taxing robots to pay for the welfare of unemployed people will not work because the people want to labor at something instead of sitting idle.

in this case coal is coming back pollution and all, though investments in infrastructure can help handle the extra winds and storms.

this could inspire innovation and job creation for managing weather related global warming events from pollution.

 

Yet it helps eliminate potential dangers, increases output, & would allow related industries to employ more...
Not to mention the potential for cheaper energy costs consumer side, which provides additional boosts to the economy.

 

Which is great and all, but not many robots get taxed these days. And coal isn't coming back to where it was. It's simply not cost effective enough. It won't go away entirely due to its requirements for metallurgy, but it's days as a driving force for the middle-class is over.

Yes, but again, if it's more economical to get the energy from other sources, that's where they will go. And are going.

 

The coal industry responds to demand for coal in order to ramp up production. Do you have facts on the increase in demand for coal since it had dropped over the years?

 

Um, wait, how can they blame obama if this is true?

Oh, I bet he allowed fracking.