Why is Israel richer than the 3rd World?

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Well, you've described why Israel is richer than Palestine.

But, what about Turkey that had at least 600 years to amass wealth in Anatolia, who had a huge empire, and who had still have much more territory than Israel?

 

Yeah, well Latinos have in general had their own nations in Latin America for nearly 200 years, as opposed to Israel who have had their own nation for nearly 70 years.

 

"PARASITISM PAYS"

Especially when they manage to extract several $Trillions from American taxpayers, steal U.S. technology and have the Germans build Israel's initial infrastructure:



"Stealing Success Tel Aviv Style"
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/01/27/stealing-success-tel-aviv-style/

EXCERPT "That is the significant advantage that Israel has gained by systematically stealing American technology with both military and civilian applications. The US developed technology is then reverse engineered and used by the Israelis to support their own exports with considerably reduced research and development costs, giving them a huge advantage against American companies.

Sometimes, when the technology is military in nature and winds up in the hands of a US adversary, the consequences can be serious. Israel has sold advanced weapons systems to China that are believed to incorporate technology developed by American companies, including the Python-3 air-to-air missile and the Delilah cruise missile."CONTINUED


“The Reparations Agreement of 1952 and the response in Israel”
http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Engl...Agreement.aspx

EXCERPT “As part of the reparations, many goods reached Israel which helped the state economy to stabilize over the years. For example, Israel received new-fangled German-manufactured trains, which were operated for a number of years by the Israel Railways”CONTINUED



“Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship”
http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship/

EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry.
In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED

 

Israel is successful because it has a culture based on rule of law and is the only truely democratic nation in th he middle east. Most aid we offer is military.....as Israel is surrounded by enemies.
We give huge amounts of economic aide to countries that are corrupt, totalitarian in nature.....much of the third world have these issues....and the money doesn't seem to be put to good use, or they have grown dependent on it and choose not to advance.

 

And again you use sources like anti war.com which are, of course, crap. But even if it was true (which it is not) the money spent by American taxpayers to aid the only country in the Middle East worthy of being helped would be money well spend. So, I do not mind helping Israel.

Now, in real news - did you hear,

Intel buys Israeli self-driving car firm for $15 billion

Good for Intell. Israel is a fertile ground, and if you seed it with some funds and IP, you'll rip the rewards.

 

Oh come on Shiva_TD, you know better than that - Israel success has to do with ingenuity, entrepreneurship, savvy, scientific inclination and willingness to work hard of the Jews, and nothing else. As I said elsewhere, you put a lot Jews together in one spot, good things are bound to happen.


Intel buys Israeli self-driving car firm for $15 billion

 

Your assertion that Israel has not and does not steal American technology is as predictable as it is dishonest. Additionally your rejection of non Zionist sources as "crap" is equally convenient for Israel's innumerable shills at this forum.

So, let's try some some better known sources:

"ISRAEL WON'T STOP SPYING ON THE US"
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

EXCERPT "The Jewish state’s primary target: America’s industrial and technical secrets.

“No other country close to the United States continues to cross the line on espionage like the Israelis do,” said a former congressional staffer who attended another classified briefing in late 2013, one of several in recent months given by officials from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the State Department, the FBI and the National Counterintelligence Directorate.

Israel’s espionage activities in America are unrivaled and unseemly, counterspies have told members of the House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs committees, going far beyond activities by other close allies, such as Germany, France, the U.K. and Japan. A congressional staffer familiar with a briefing last January called the testimony “very sobering…alarming…even terrifying.” Another staffer called it “damaging

The intelligence agencies didn’t go into specifics, the former aide said, but cited “industrial espionage—folks coming over here on trade missions or with Israeli companies working in collaboration with American companies, [or] intelligence operatives being run directly by the government, which I assume meant out of the [Israeli] Embassy.” CONTINUED


"Israel spies on U.S. more than any other ally"
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/05/israel-spies-other/


"SUPPORTING ISRAEL DOES NOT MEAN SUPPORTING ISRAELI ESPIONAGE IN AMERICA"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/opinions/limiting-israel-espionage-in-america-rogan/

EXCERPT "But my gripe is that Israeli espionage is unchecked in its ambition against US interests. As former NSA counterintelligence officer John Schindler accounts, Israeli human-intelligence operations inside the United States are at a scale to those of American adversaries. Moreover, unique of any US ally, Israel has no qualms about advertising -- even if via the pretense of diplomatic code words -- its intelligence operations against America." CONTINUED

Perhaps the most damning evidence outlining Israeli treachery & betrayal of the US is the following shown on mainstream media's C-SPAN

"Former CIA/Counter Intelligence Officer Phil Giraldi - "Israel Steals Technology"


Israel has repeatedly proven to be America's most insidious & treacherous of enemies beginning with the Lavon Affair, climaxing with the Israeli bombing of the Marine Barracks in Beirut[1] & continuing today with the Israeli murdering of US Troops[2]

I dare you to name another U.S. "ally" that spies on the US so extensively & murders Americans with such impunity all the time while receiving US $Trillions,


[1] “CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines - Evidence shows Israel is Guilty!
http://www.trionfopublishing.com/cache/forensics.htm


[2] "Israeli Snipers are shooting hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq:"
http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/isra...ng-hundreds-of-american-soldiers-in-iraq.html

EXCERPT "Anderson Cooper of CNN showed this video of snipers killing U.S. troops in Iraq on his October 18, 2006 show. CNN says it obtained the video from a "representative" of an unnamed "insurgent leader." Bear in mind that Anderson Cooper used to work for the CIA.
Richard Wilson's hypothesis: Israeli soldiers and/or Mossad agents are killing our soldiers in Iraq in order to enrage American troops so that the slaughter continues.

Proof: At the very beginning of this video clip, you see a rifle with a video camera attached to it. This weapon is made by the Rafael company, an Israeli arms manufacturer, that also makes IEDs.

If you watch the video all the way through, it explains how this rifle works. CNN stated that the camera used to film these shootings was not a mounted rifle camera. But as you watch the video, you see that with each shot fired, the camera recoils. That would only happen if it were mounted on the rifle. Why is this significant? Because this kind of rifle-camera is extremely sophisticated and not available to your average Iraqi insurgent. I mean, it's not exactly an easily obtainable Saturday night special!

Something this sophisticated points to Mossad."CONTINUED

 

Your charge that Israel is spying on United States is summarily dismissed - everyone spies on everyone - Obama even spied on Merkel! Big F***ing Deal! Came back when the Jews do something really horrible, like blow up a bus full of women and children or somethng?

 

What part of: "“No other country close to the United States continues to cross the line on espionage like the Israelis do,” are you unable to grasp.

AND

If massacring 241 US Marines while extorting U.S. $Trillions & posing as an "ally" is not bad enough for you, you're in the wrong country:

“CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines - Evidence shows Israel is Guilty!
http://www.trionfopublishing.com/cache/forensics.htm

 

No idea whatcha talking about, and here you go again... WTF is trionfopublishing? I just don't open funny sounding sources for a fear of catching something

Adios, just arrived to Moscow - fun fun fun ahead for the next few days

 

Re:“CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines - Evidence shows Israel is Guilty!
http://www.trionfopublishing.com/cache/forensics.htm

No, you simply ignore evidence that Israel is, in reality, America's most insidious enemy & greatest parasitic threat

 

No, I just refuse to open sources with funny sounding names for a fear of catching some desease.

Is all there is to it.

 

I agree Israel is our largest foreign parasite.

Not too sure about them being, "America's most insidious enemy" though.

I think there are more than a few nations in the ME alone, that would fill that bill.

 

The world is full of ignorant people, sadly...


“Israel today concentrates the genius of the Jews. Obscured by the prevalent media narrative of the “war-torn” Middle East, Israel’s rarely-celebrated feats of commercial, scientific, and technological creativity climax the Jews’ twentieth-century saga of triumph over tragedy. Today tiny Israel, with its population of 7.23 million, five and one-half million Jewish, is second only the United States in technological contributions. In per capita innovation, Israel dwarfs all nations. The forces of civilization in the world continue to feed upon the intellectual wealth epitomized by Israel.

Today in the Middle East, Israeli wealth looms palpably and portentously over the middens of Arab poverty. But dwarfing Israel’s own wealth is Israel’s contribution to the world economy, stemming from Israeli creativity and entrepreneurial innovation. Israel’s technical and scientific gifts to global progress loom with similar majesty over all others’ contributions with the sole exception of the United States.”

Excerpt From: Gilder, George. “The Israel Test.”

 

Ignorant indeed.

Your proof Israel isn't our biggest foreign aid teet sucker is where again?

 

Do you know why anti-semites hate Jews? Because the Jews are Jewish.

Is all the proof one needs.

 

Horse pucky.

Disprove Israel hasn't been unrightiously filling it's bloated belly with US Foreign aid.

BTW, Personally, I'm anti-Zionist, not anti-Semetic.

 

Same difference

 

Thanks. You have just proven you haven't clue one on the subject.

 

By "America's most insidious enemy", I'm referring to AIPAC's spies & America's infestation of dual citizen, "Israel Firster" parasites & Hasbara shills.

Additionally, no nation has been able to betray the U.S. & kill Americans with impunity like Israel has & does.


Israel's history of Betrayals & False Flag attacks go back to the 1950s Lavon Affair & are too numerous to list here.

A few include:

“CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines - Evidence shows Israel is Guilty!
http://www.trionfopublishing.com/cache/forensics.htm

By Ralph Forbes

General Kelly

EXCRPT “The Beirut bombing that killed 241 U.S. Marines was "the largest non-nuclear explosion in history," according to General Paul X. Kelley, past-Commandant of the Marine Corps.” CONTINUED

The "official version" put out by the federal government still repeated today was that the explosion was caused by a truck loaded with "2,000 pounds of dynamite" rammed the building. No one with any knowledge of explosives believed the "official version, because that explosion could not have been caused by TNT, just as fuel oil can't melt steel; or as General Parton proved, a Ryder truck of fertilizer could not bring down the Murrah building.

Against the evidence and common sense, immediately, the blame was laid on "terrorists almost certainly Hezbollah" - and guilt by word association blaming two of Israel's bitterest enemies, Iran and Syria. But the official story never tells you.

The Mossad had advance knowledge of the notorious suicide bombing in Beirut but didn't pass on that information to American intelligence. By Way of Deception, Confessions of ex-Mossad agent, Victor Ostrovsky. "Intelligence lies are like the Russian dolls, open one, find another. The real story - like 911 - is even worse than they knew but didn't warn us."

U.S. military intelligence's equivalent of CSI (Crime Scene Investigators), using the most sophisticated, high tech diagnostic tests, forensically examined evidence found at the scene of the terrorist explosion that killed 241 U.S. Marines in Beirut - They know where the bomb came from, but the stunning truth has been suppressed for 23 years. Even without full disclosure of those test results, experts on explosives and terrorism believe more than enough proof exists to establish who is guilty. The truck that blew up the Marine Barracks was loaded with 666 pounds of enhanced RDX "rag bombs."CONTINUED

- "Israeli Snipers are shooting hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq:"
http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/isra...ng-hundreds-of-american-soldiers-in-iraq.html

EXCERPT "Anderson Cooper of CNN showed this video of snipers killing U.S. troops in Iraq on his October 18, 2006 show. CNN says it obtained the video from a "representative" of an unnamed "insurgent leader." Bear in mind that Anderson Cooper used to work for the CIA.

Richard Wilson's hypothesis: Israeli soldiers and/or Mossad agents are killing our soldiers in Iraq in order to enrage American troops so that the slaughter continues.

Proof: At the very beginning of this video clip, you see a rifle with a video camera attached to it. This weapon is made by the Rafael company, an Israeli arms manufacturer, that also makes IEDs.

If you watch the video all the way through, it explains how this rifle works. CNN stated that the camera used to film these shootings was not a mounted rifle camera. But as you watch the video, you see that with each shot fired, the camera recoils. That would only happen if it were mounted on the rifle. Why is this significant? Because this kind of rifle-camera is extremely sophisticated and not available to your average Iraqi insurgent. I mean, it's not exactly an easily obtainable Saturday night special!

Something this sophisticated points to Mossad."CONTINUED



- "ISRAEL WON'T STOP SPYING ON THE US"
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

EXCERPT "The Jewish state’s primary target: America’s industrial and technical secrets.

“No other country close to the United States continues to cross the line on espionage like the Israelis do,” said a former congressional staffer who attended another classified briefing in late 2013, one of several in recent months given by officials from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the State Department, the FBI and the National Counterintelligence Directorate.

The intelligence agencies didn’t go into specifics, the former aide said, but cited “industrial espionage—folks coming over here on trade missions or with Israeli companies working in collaboration with American companies, [or] intelligence operatives being run directly by the government, which I assume meant out of the [Israeli] Embassy.” CONTINUED


When I say "most insidious enemy" I include the ability of Israeli lobbies to direct US Foreign policy in directions that are not in America's best interest such as:

“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003

PLease note their use of the word "quietly" in driving America into a quagmire & permanent U.S. MILItary presence in the Mid East that only benefits Zionist Regional Hegemony.

Can you think of any other country whose lobbies have the influence needed to drive America into such a catastrophic
imbroglio?

Thanks

 

The best and most intelligent response to this load that I can give is



Adios, a beautiful day is shaping up in Moscow... time for some well deserved R&R...

 

It is Zionism, & Zionists that are enemies of the US, & quite honestly, the world at large, not Israel. There are plenty of peace loving, rational, moderate Israeltes that actually want not a thing to do with Zionism..... Which, thankfully, has helped keep the ME from turning into even more of a crap pile than it already has been. SOZ for the double quote.

 

“The Israel Test.”.....Oh, Please.....
That's the best you can do in shilling for the country to which you are most loyal?

 

I realize that there are many, many, courageous, ethical & decent Israelis but, sadly, they are eclipsed by Israel's Right Wing, Zionist, Ethnic Cleansers:


“Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED

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"Israel’s descent into unmasked, right wing extremism: A new generation rises to fight occupation, settler-colonialism, apartheid"

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/22/isr...ght_occupation_settler_colonialism_apartheid/

EXCERPT "Since Benjamin Netanyahu’s return to power in 2009, Israel’s descent into unmasked, right wing extremism has accelerated alarmingly. The number of Jewish settlers living illegally on occupied Palestinian land has grown by more than 120,000, something Netanyahu was recently caught on tape boasting about. Meanwhile, a steady stream of discriminatory, anti-democratic laws targeting Palestinian citizens of Israel, and to a lesser extent Jewish-Israeli critics of Israel’s apartheid regime, have been passed by the Israeli parliament. These include the so-called “boycott law,” and the “Nakba law.”CONTINUED


Young Americans will continue to be burned, mutilated, traumatized & killed as long as America's infestation of Zionist lobbies continue to dictate US Mid East Policy

("double quote" was unintentional)

 

I agree. If even half the dedication regarding news given to Islamists & their activities, was directed @ Israel, & the Zionists within, you'd likely see a populous uproar, calling for the bombing of Tel Aviv.