Denis Voronenkov: former Russian MP who fled to Ukraine shot dead in Kiev

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  1. Balancer

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    At me it looks so. And the previous message on the previous page is mine.
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    If you are doing to quote me then quote me correctly and in context. I did not refer to Russians alone as being or behaving like savages but included the Germans. The context of my remark was that the Germans sent Ukrainians and others to forced labor camps and at the same time the Russians sent people such as my grandfathers to Siberia where many many died. In other posts I have described the barbaric actions of the Russian NKVD such as executing and boiling Catholic priests in oil.

    Are you denying that these acts are barbaric?
     
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    Thet debate over one incident at the time, with presenting the actual data and it's sources, with links, like I have been doing before I gave up and stopped bothering with trying to argue with people, who do not care about truth, but care about smearing dirt over country that currently cannot defend itself from such accusations.
     
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    That is weird, I think for other users it appears fine. And it looks fine for me. Hmh.
     
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    Litwin - just completely inadequate or paid for. On the old forum engine, I just him and a few more people (also PARIZAN1, Borat,
    zoom_copter66 and some more) put in the ignore list. And the forum has become much cleaner :) On the updated engine of the forum ignore does not work, it is necessary to suffer and ignore in my mind.

    All the same from them there is nothing but empty slogans and insults.
     
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    You forgot about anyone who spoke another language other than russian, being idealistic, rejecting socialism, etc...
     
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    Wow, you insulted two nations instead of one..!

    Oh, or am I supposed to aggro at mentioning germans? For them having to go through a tyrannical regime for couple decades almost a century ago? How about all the horror they experienced before and after that regime? The enormous contributions, the pressure of the foreigners wrecking their country, the devastation left by both - especially the second - world wars? The families divided in both times, families of people who lived on borders of Germany and France and been pulled apart by war and deportations, the families divided along with Germany itself after the second war? The generations growing with knowledge of their country being held solely responsible for terrifying wars, where all sides have committed inhuman, satanic, EVIL acts that more than just crimes against humanity - because many of these acts were left unpunished?

    How about you think of that? Or what, you find THAT being just? People - innocent people - paying for crimes of other citizens of their country, and for crimes of foreigners?

    Tell me, did people who bombed Hiroshima and Nagassaki been judged for murder of one hundred fourty eight thousand human beings of all ages? Of pregnant, newborns, elders, pacifists, sick, healthy, gloom, happy, kind, wicked, afraid - people who have been vaporised, skinned alive by fire, crushed by the debris, suffocated by cloud of radioactive dust, who suffered and cried and yelled and squealed and thrashed in the agonizing pain in the last seconds, minutes, hours, days of their lives, dying on streets, in homes, in beds, in hospitals and under ruins where they never been found before they died?
    Have people who comitted that crime been prosecuted? Have people who ordered that crime been prosecuted? Have any of the dead had their murderers punished?

    Why must my family pay for actions of other people? RIGHT NOW, THERE, THIS VERY MOMENT, why must I and my family pay for crimes of others?
     
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    Of course...truth always happens to be an irritating detail for moskalis.
     
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    It seems, I'm starting to understand :) It's so now, after fixing on a new engine, ignore users :) You write to those I ignore, but I see only your messages, without specifying that this is a quote: D
     
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    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were direct results of pearl harbor...just like Barbarossa was to russia, or you haven't read?
     
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    She was G
    She was German...ethnically..anyone can be a citizen of whatever country...the fact was that her ethnicity was German.
     
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    well., how many Muscovites ended up uppeaten by other Muscovites, but they still inlove with those who did it to them ...slaves of khan juchi


    "
    "Cannibal Island" was the mass deportation of 6,000 people, 4,000 of whom died, on Nazino Island (Russian: Остров Назино) in the Soviet Union in 1933. The small, isolated Western Siberian island is located about 800 km north of Tomsk, in Alexandrovsky District, Tomsk Oblast near the confluence of the Ob and Nazina Rivers.

    It is called "Death Island" (Russian: Остров Смерти, Ostrov Smerti) or "Cannibal Island" because about 4,000 out of 6,000 Soviet "special settlers" died there during the summer of 1933, after being abandoned with only flour for food, few tools and little clothing or shelter.[1][2]

    A report on the events was sent to Joseph Stalin by Vassilii Arsenievich Velichko. The report was distributed by Lazar Kaganovich to members of the Politburo, and was preserved in an archive in Novosibirsk.[3] It states that 6,114 "outdated elements" (also known as "déclassé and socially harmful elements" or classless people) arrived on the island in late May 1933. They had been transported from Moscow and Leningrad, first by train to Tomsk, then by river barge to Nazino. At least 27 people died during the river transport. There was no shelter on the island, it snowed the first night, and no food was distributed for four days. On the first day 295 people were buried.[4]"
     
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    I've never indicated to anyone as a "nazi" here either, unlike some "pro Russia" posters here ...immediately labelled me just that..shortly after I began a contributing poster here. I point out many of the faults here, just like litwin, partizan, and a couple others.
     
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    the Bodyguard with huge balls and can shoot
     
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    You have no basis to whine about Russia not being able to defend itself against accusations. Russia inherited the propaganda tools of the USSR and the USSR with Russia have spit out mountains and mountains of lies, distirtions, and false news.

    Are you denying that the NKVD committed barbaric acts? Do you intend to deny that the USSR committed the Katyn Forrest massacre just as the USSR denied it for years and tried to blame it on the Germans?
     
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    The media have found out the name of the killer who assassinated Voronenkov and who was shot dead by Voronenkov's bodyguard.
    It's Pavel Parshov, 28 y.o. Since 2012 he was in police search list for fraud and illegal earnings, nevertheless in 2015 he joined National Guard of Ukraine and took part in retaliatory operation against Donetsk and Lugansk republics (so-calles "anti-terrorism operation"), was wounded. (One more time we can see what kind of people fight against people's republics).
     
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    just denied my question about nuclear mass murder? You did. End of dialogue, you do not deserve my answers.
     
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    People's republics are terrorists, just like motorola(petty criminal in Russia), Givi(tolstykh), disrespectful swine praising stalin, Beria crimes in Ukraine, Pushilin(Ponzi schemers, drug runner), quite the sordid crew in the terrorist "republics".
     
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    The traitor, the thief and the swindler got what he deserved. This is called karma.
    By the way, retribution will also come to all Ukrainians, to all aggressive savage Baltic tribes and all the rest who are doing evil. For example, NATO countries. These are the laws of karma.
     
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    Another example of karma.
     
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    Moskali is who?
    The laws of karma are the laws of the universe. For example, you also have your own karma. If you betrayed your country for example - you will receive retribution. So it was and will be. Judas retaliated also according to the laws of karma.
     
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    How exactly will karma come to NATO countries? Explain? And I'm assuming you may realize what consequences for Russia will be?
     
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    What acts of terrorism they commited?
     
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    whats else can Kremlin trolls do?
    "
    Crimea seen as 'Hitler-style' land grab - BBC News
    www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26488652
    Mar 7, 2014 - The Sudeten crisis began in February 1938 when Hitler demanded self-determination for all Germans in Austria and Czechoslovakia. ... Czech Senate Speaker Milan Stech recently compared the Crimea crisis to Hitler's annexation of Czechoslovakia in 1938. ... Former US Secretary of State"
    and
    https://newrepublic.com/article/118...ins-favorite-tv-host-russias-top-propogandist
     
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