Steve D. Kelly has an interesting platform.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr. Steven D. Kelley does not actually have to be elected President or even Vice President of the USA to play a significant role in improving the USA economy.

    Have you seen any episodes of "Hunger Games?"


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...mageddon-could-bring-world-out-recession.html
    Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

    ..........A serious attempt to replicate "Armageddon" would create a minimum of two hundred million jobs in China, India, Russia and Mongolia alone....... not to mention the number of jobs this would generate in Israel and the surrounding nations.

    Revelation 9:16 "And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

    China now holds so many American dollars that any possible way to cooperate at a higher level seems to be worthy of consideration.

    One of the "stages" is the Jerusalem Third Temple complex. Without conflict a film is boring and we all know that lots of conflict surrounds the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple. Two logical years for this to happen are 2030 (only fifteen years in the future) and also 2070.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ay-least-expensive-way-stabilize-climate.html

    Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?
     
  2. DennisTate

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    You can also hear him speaking in this video clip.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbwApDkYHE
    US appeals court backs NSA phone data collection
     
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    What do you personally think of his comments in this article?

    I believe that he is significantly further politically left on this subject than I am.



    Former CIA Contractor: ‘ISIS is a Completely Fabricated Enemy and Funded By the United States - See more at: http://realitieswatch.com/former-ci...my-funded-united-states/#sthash.co1MTZ9H.dpuf

    - See more at: http://realitieswatch.com/former-ci...my-funded-united-states/#sthash.co1MTZ9H.dpuf
     
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    I am of the opinion that he could powerfully appeal to a segment of the population who have the ability to draw a huge amount of attention to his campaign which...… could set him up for a pretty high profile position in the 2017 or 2021 administration.

    There are a number of quotations from his book in this discussion that I think you may enjoy..... I think you will agree with my assessment of him that he is attempting to the best of his ability to tell the truth as he understands it....... and he is obviously not simply attempting to get elected.

    This approach could actually get him elected as President of the USA in less than a decade!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/425801-great-book-explain-ufo-cia-connection.html

    A great book to explain UFO - CIA connection?
     
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    Dennis, it seems to me Kelley is intentionally marginalizing himself with his list and position on ISIS.

    And WHY, does he not have his own forum? He has a high enough profile to draw traffic, and he could make forums to address the issues of the list and mitigate the marginalization with more developed perspective on list points.

    As I stated in an earlier post, many of his list points are things citizens should be involved with through Article V. His support for that in a forum with detail of how the bureaucracy needs to be altered and eliciting comment from the public would make him very popular.

    The whole act, as it is, doesn't make sense. He's a smart man, he knows these things, so why is he running the campaign like he is?
     
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    Based partly on what I read in his book Steven knows that he is putting his life on the line.

    So I assume that he is willing to end up as something like a martyr so......… by first getting himself a fairly large group of people who also care deeply about what he cares about.......... who frankly actually want to "save the world".............. he is on one level almost replicating himself.

    If he was to die or become extremely ill, under strange circumstances over the coming months his fans would cause his book to go viral....... and millions and millions of people would become aware of what he has written and spoken and attempted to accomplish.

    My guess...… is that there is an element of opening gambit in his campaign platform. I think he had to write his book........ just as he wrote it.... which forces him somewhat into exactly this type of long term campaign strategy?!

    I am only one Canadian and already, having read his book, I am pretty determined to make Mr. Steven D. Kelley as famous as I can at this time. If anything were to happen to him....... I am pretty sure that I would spend a significant percentage of my time promoting his book....... and in my own way..... under my own set of circumstances.... attempt to become more like him.

    One major factor in his campaign strategy is that he doesn't have millions and millions of dollars in his own bank account to put into his campaign.

    (Oh...… his position on ISIS....... is probably very much what he believes to be the truth about the background to ISIS. He is somebody who has basically conquered his fears which makes him free to tell the truth........ as best as he possibly can..... on any subject..... even one that will make it difficult for him to actually be elected President)!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/425801-great-book-explain-ufo-cia-connection.html

    A great book to explain UFO - CIA connection?


    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22697841-cities-under-the-plain

    Cities Under the Plain: The true story of one mans journey, through science, magic, and the CIA to understand the world in the 21st century


    Steven D Kelley:




    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stev...tates-of-America/1656420081237824?sk=timeline

    Steven D Kelley for President of the United states of America

    ............…

    Oh.... Christopher... he still has room for 500 more friends to reach his 5000 limit on Facebook.... and I know that he would love for you to be one of them.... if you use Facebook!
     
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    No, he's a nut. Fluoridation was a particular target of the old John Birch Society, he probably picked up an old pamphlet of theirs. Typical Conspiracy nut.
     
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    So you are pretty sure that this article is incorrect?

    http://fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/

    50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation


     
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    I work as a cleaner at a school. I know that I know that he is onto something huge with this part of his proposal. H2O2 is highly effect but at the same time amazingly safe even for somebody who uses it eight hours per day five days per week.

     
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    He couldn't be as possibly suffering from Reasons 22 and 23. But reason 41 should disuade any that are capable of critical thinking.

     
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    Steve Kelly makes some good points, however, I don't think he will win the Presidential Nomination.
     
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    You are correct.....#41 is enough to convince me that he is onto a good idea here!

    And yes, #22 and #23 are interesting too!


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    What I personally think is that he can achieve is give a voice to a significant percentage of younger people who are concerned about many of the subjects that he addresses in his platform.

    These same young people who tend to agree with him on many issues have the potential to cause his campaign to go viral through Facebook and other social media....... much as occurred back in 2007 and 2008 for Senator Barack Obama.

    As his campaign gains momentum the two candidates actually chosen by the Democrats and Republicans will feel more pressure to say something significant about some of these issues that he gets into.
     
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    Good points as most of the young people of today that are not total doughnuts are more awakened and aware of any in recent history. I have been moderately pleased many times here in the recent past as to their awareness of things not right, could be the extreme job conditions that has made it impossible to move on with their lives but whatever it is refreshing.

    Could see them latching on to Kelly and actually hope so. Must also give kudos to Trump for bring a lot of things to the limelight even if in a misguided sense, but still to the light all the less. What will be amazing is when they shun the false messenger and look for the true leader that reflects their values instead of rhetoric.
     
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    Yes........ I saw a documentary on Netflix yesterday evening that in some ways rather shocked me but there was something kind of encouraging in this as well.

    It might actually be easier to do something effective about climate change and those dead zones in the ocean than we have been told?????

    http://www.cowspiracy.com/
     
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    I started that piece of crap documentary about a week ago, lasted about 15 minutes before I had a urge to puke. Fast scanned through the rest stopping occasionally to reaffirm still trash and to insure Netflix would not want to ask if I want to continue watching.

    If by shocked you are referring to the total bull portrayed, then I agree but I can't understand what would be encouraging on this attempt to mislead by a politically correct but factually misleading piece of crap.

    Cattle was put upon this planet for a purpose, as a beast of prey so that predators, including man may have the nourishment of grass that we are incapable of digesting.

    However, what this has to do with Kelly is beyond me unless he is going to shut down the large corporate stock yards that are causing so much damage to the environment and are nothing more than large concentrated centers for animal cruelty.

    Personally I prefer local grass fed beef and raw milk that has never had one kernel of grain not growing out on their own pasture.
     
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    Thank you for taking a look at it. It does start out a bit slow..... it is the guy's first film... but later on he makes many good points about the chemicals being used to clean up the barn floors and how they are playing such a large role in the run off that is killing the Mississippi River as well as the Gulf of Mexico.
     
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    Yes............

    this is excellent advice for him and I will pass this on to him shortly.
     
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    What do you think of the idea of bringing back the buffalo........
    for a number of reasons?

    For one... they require a lot less care.
     
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    Please read what I stated again, I did scan the whole video and nothing changed. He had an agenda for stopping cattle production, any cattle production. He had no good points, especially chemicals. You really should understand the history and intent of a subject before making determinations or you become an easy target for propaganda.
     
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    There are many advantages to bison, most important being very lean and no hormones or antibiotics, but the huge disadvantage is cost. One source I use runs about $45 a pound. I buy grass fed grass finished organic beef for about $8 a pound and there is no salt brine in the meat either.
     
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    I can get bison for about half that but they run out quick and it is a bit of a drive. They only harvest a limited number so you have to stay on them to find out when the next batch will be available.
     
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    And I have to pay FedEx to deliver overnight as it's a long drive to Missouri, my source of guaranteed organic grass fed, grass finished bison.
     
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    Do you like the taste better than beef......
    or do you prefer it mostly because you know it is so much healthier for you and your family?
     

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