Matt Damon on Australia's gun confiscation...I wish that could happen in my country

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  1. TOG 6

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    Another Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
    Have anything else?
     
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    And do NOT forget that in Mexico, Gun Control is only strictly enforced only on Law Abiding Mexicans, yet, any Criminal in Mexico is Armed with Military Calibers.

    Also, the Drug Cartels have Military Weapons, Machine Guns, Grenades, RPG's Helicopters, sometimes Tanks, and are assisted by corrupt Mexican Government Officials and Military Officers and Soldiers.

    So tell us again, how Gun Control works so well in Mexico, why doncha ???
    Because it Don't !!!!
    Doncha know !
    Lol
     
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    I don't ignore the cultural aspects. We have a gun culture, and I believe that needs to change, by elimination of the 2nd Amendment, and outlawing guns in this country.

    Guns are not illegal in Mexico. Try Great Britain, Poland or Japan, where guns are really illegal. These are the true stats that the US should strive to reproduce in our country.

    I'm a realist, and I realize this isn't going to happen in my lifetime. But I'm convinced that someday in the future, a drastic event will occur (worse than Sandy Hook elementary?), and some gutsy politicians will act, and change this constitution of yesteryear.
     
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    The 2nd will not be repealed, ever.

    Gun ownership is legal in both the UK and Poland.

    And you pray every night to hear of such news the next morning, as you fully understand your unsupportable and nonsensical agenda is a LOT easier to push when you have the blood of innocent children in which to soak yourself.
     
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  5. DoctorWho

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    You could move to a Country with Few to no Guns and start enjoying Life as most of the work has already been done for you.

    Oh yeah, England just had an attack and lots of people were hurt injured and killed, move their and preach for more gun Control.
     
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    Yea, if there were no swimming pools in a country, there would be many fewer drownings.
    If there were no cars there would be many fewer car accidents deaths.
     
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    What you describe is nothing less than fantasy., completely devoid of any basis in reality. You and countless others are not about to have any measurable impact on the firearms culture of the united states, except make it even stronger, and more ingrained than ever before. Any time new restrictions on firearms are even discussed, the number of firearms purchased increases dramatically. Approximately forty one thousand firearms are being bought daily from federally licensed firearms dealers.

    the people of the united states have rejected your notion, refusing to even give it any consideration whatsoever.

    Once again you are incorrect. Firearms are not illegal in any of the countries you have mentioned. They can be owned in each country you have mentioned, they are simply tightly regulated, much as they are in the nation of Mexico. Yet despite the strict regulations in place in the nation of Mexico, violence remains at an all time high.

    If every mass shooting the united states has experienced, has done nothing to generate public support for what you are proposing, what event could possibly come about that would do just that?
     
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    If we need to eliminate the 2nd Amendment to change the culture, but it's necessary to change the culture to eliminate the 2nd Amendment, you got yourself a real quandary right there.
     
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    Do you know what is necessary to repeal the 2A?
    All you need is 2/3 of each house and 3/4 of all the state legislatures to agree with you.
     
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    Your statement implied it...
    What does better behaved mean? Controlled?
    What anti-gun rights hope for is stacking the SCOTUS with liberal justices that will legislate from the bench and reinterpret the 2A to their benefit. However, thanks to Obama, not only has the number of guns and gun owners been vastly increased during his Administration, the backlash among voters in the last election has resulted in a massive shift in state legislators and govenorships where the GOP likely now has enough support at the state level to support Amending the 2A to be for more definitive in protecting gun rights than it is with language clear in meaning to the common people today.
    So, should the SCOTUS, usurp power from the other two branches of the government (unlikely, given the rulings of the last decade or so), there is potential recourse.
     
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    I see no law that would prevent suicides using a firearm. Changing the law to reduce criminal use of firearms is possible without restricting gun from the law abiding, but I don't think the left has the stomach for it. Penalties, including death, for use of a firearm to commit predatory crimes, particularly for repeat offenders could be massively increased, but it is unlikely that will happen.
     
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    The pea shooters of the Viet cong and terrorists today are doing a good job at keeping the army's tanks, grenade launchers, armed helicopters, etc at bay.
     
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    Half of those homicides don't involve firearms at all.
     
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    Their violent crime rose after the handgun ban.
     
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    I'm left, and I have a very-very strong stomach. Do both. Eliminate firearms, and your capital punishment - now you have something! Also, once they're illegal, make it a felony to own an unlawful firearm.
     
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    It is already a felony for a prohibited individual to possess a firearm. There are no exceptions under which their possession is legal, and cannot be prosecuted in a court of law. But despite this fact, the vast majority of offenses are not being prosecuted. Explain why this is, and what would change under your proposal.
     
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    Just how do you expect guns to be made illegal in the US? Just have just as realistic as a plan to have the gun fairy come take them all away. Suggesting impossible solutions is a waste of everyone's time.
     
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    I have a magic wand for sale, but as a disclaimer, you must know how to use it to make it work so I provide no warranty .
     
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    Stopped by Ollivanders on the last trip to the UK, did ya?
     
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    No, it was made by a pacifist...not sure it worked for him, but might for someone else.
     
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    Lots of people won't give up their firearms to satisfy socialist parasites and if they are told they are going to have their lives ruined for merely owning a gun they may have owned for years, such citizens might well kill anyone seeking to arrest them. I would argue that if people are going to be jailed for merely owning a gun, then the government has violated the constitution, and those who push such laws should be seen as enemies of the constitution by patriots and treated accordingly.
     
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    well he expects OTHER men WITH GUNS to do the confiscation. I suggest that those who want guns to be banned, should go home to home-say in Appalachia or Texas, and demand people turn in their guns.
     
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    Not to mention, most will have violated oaths....and will have to violate other constitutional rights to impliment their mission, but then for many the Constitution is merely a guideline to be changed by the Judicial branch as the political winds shift.
     
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    Others should risk their lives to defend those that won't accept the resonsibily for themselves, eh, which is the expectation of the banners? And to further their ends, they are willing to risk many times the magnitude of the current problem to do so. Their cure would be far worse than their assessment of the disease.

    There is no better example of the level of compliance than In the states, NY and CN where bans have been made law. Now, how is the law being enforced?

    I look at the reaction to the Jade Helm excersize and the response to Bundy. Does anyone really not think people will rally to defend their rights? Particularly when, as I have posted before, the 120mil gun owners in the US have more weapons that all the combined armies in the world... one hell of militia, eh?
     
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