Bombshell: Nunes Says There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration PT.2

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We haven't investigated Ted Kennedy's efforts to subvert US democratic process. Why should we investigate Trump? Give me one good reason?
     
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    Arguably surveillance of Trump's team was permissible, but the dissemination of information on the surveillance certainly was not. I've no doubt the information obtained from the arguably permissible surveillance of Trump's team was maliciously disclosed in an unsuccessful effort to smear the President. It is obvious to me already, lefties still think there will be some bombshell revelation from all this investigating.

    The information disseminated to smear Trump has nothing to do with Russia or any effort to manipulate the elections.
     
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    Yes and you of course have it ton the best authority. Who would that be now?
     
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    Democrats hold an absolute and permanent leadership on colluding with russkies to subvert American democracy. Should not we give them credit first?
     
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    Trump says Obama's mom shot Kennedy, some on the right believe it, investigators he sent to Hawaii will have proof any minute, Trump says will release amazing info in 2 months - /end sarcasm
     
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    How did Democrats "collude"?
     
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    Let's expose democrat cheats further. The company CrowdStrike, the cyber security firm hired by the DNC completely lost the credibility. Let's not forget, the DNC denied FBI's request to hand over their server for analysis.

    Cybersecurity Firm That Attributed DNC Hacks to Russia May Have Fabricated Russia Hacking in Ukraine

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03...ay-have-fabricated-russia-hacking-in-ukraine/

    The cyber security firm outsourced by the Democratic National Committee, CrowdStrike, reportedly misread data, falsely attributing a hacking in Ukraine to the Russians in December 2016. Voice of America, a US Government funded media outlet, reported, “the CrowdStrike report, released in December, asserted that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, resulting in heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine’s war with Russian-backed separatists. But the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) told VOA that CrowdStrike erroneously used IISS data as proof of the intrusion. IISS disavowed any connection to the CrowdStrike report...
     
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    ROFL, this is rich. Ontop of the Dossier being fake, we now have THIS? And recall that the DNC didn't allow the FBI to investigate its server. Yeah, that rat I smelled? It just got stinker.
     
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    Shell shocked sleazocrats, pretending they can change the subject back to " Russia"...


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    To make it clear, I doubt Obama had the intellect to pull such a cheap stunt.

    Also, you guys can quit harping that Trump colludded with the Russians. The intelligence says no to that.
     
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    Your sniveling concerning Obama's intellect is laughable.

    I have no idea who the "you guys" that fester in your noggin might be, but whether Trump's operatives colluded with Putin's is a matter currently under investigation by US intelligence services.

    The prospect of such perfidy - given that the FBI, CIA, and NSA reached the conclusion that there was a Russian scheme to hurt Clinton and help Trump - is a matter concerning which I do not speculate. I hope the truth will be exposed, and am confident that I share that sentiment with the all patriotic Americans..
     
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    Three words - Ted Kennedy.

    Just to start with.
     
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    Pick one from the chinese menu of available choices!!!!
     
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    You Trumpsters are so pathetic.

    Repeal and replace just went down in flames, and they only had a 17% approval rating. If anything, Trump and the GOP are desperate to change the subject.

    But Russia is still on the front burner.

    The topic IS Russia. What kind of excuse are you going to come up with next week?
     
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    Ted Kennedy Asked Russia To Intervene In Election, Help Defeat Ronald Reagan. We must investigate Ted Kennedy.
     
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    Why, because the f***ing 800 lb gorilla was Democrat?
     
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    The obvious reason that there are now ongoing investigations into Russian subversion of a US election, possibly to assist a candidate Putin preferred and hurt one he opposed, is that no firm conclusion had been drawn prior to the election.

    Nor is it within the purview of US intelligence services to "not allow" a candidate to become president. It is their responsibility to deliver their findings to the Department of Justice and they determine whether further action is warranted.
     
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    You have my permission. Good luck with that.
     
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    So it appears, you don't give a damn about Democrats actually colluding with russkies to subvert American democracy, as you have just demonstrated. Democrats do it for good cause.

    Good luck with riding your eloquent, high moral horse :sunnysideup:
     
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    Where matters stand:

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    "Sen. Edward “Ted” Kennedy had “selfish political and ideological motives” when he made secret overtures to the Soviet Union’s spy agency during the Cold War to thwart then-President Ronald Reagan’s re-election, a Reagan biographer said in an interview with The Daily Signal.

    When they came to light years later, Kennedy’s secret contacts with the Russians through their KGB spy agency in the early 1980s didn’t cause nearly the tizzy that Russia’s alleged interference with this year’s election has for President-elect Donald Trump among liberal activists and reporters.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin, with whom Trump has said he hopes to “get along,” is a former foreign intelligence officer and lieutenant colonel in the KGB.

    In the 1980s, Kennedy was “terribly misguided” and “a fool” for seeing Reagan as a greater threat than either the leader of the Soviet Union or the head of its brutal secret police and intelligence agency, political science professor and writer Paul Kengor told The Daily Signal"

    http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/14/t...russia-to-prevent-ronald-reagans-re-election/

    There. Analyze Tis! :juggle:
     
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    If Clinton & the DNC hire a foreign agent (Steele) to contact other foreign agents (Russian operatives) to obtain salacious material regarding an opponent, doesn't rate as collusion, what does? Steele earned a cool $1 million. Russian operatives were bribed ... secret meetings took place. The dossier was fed to MSM, and Assange. Schiff needs to define "what is, "IS". IMO we already have irrefutable evidence of collusion ... Hillarys.
     
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    It's pretty wild you think the FBI/SS get to determine the qualifications for president.

    Sorry, chucky, doesn't work that way. At all. For someone who calls himself a Nationalist, you may wish to acquaint yourself with the Constitution.
     
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    Was not Putin a head of KGB during time when Ted Kennedy, Jimmy Carter and Tip O'Neil all made contacts with KGB and Russian Government, colluding with russkies to deny Reagan re-election? Yes, No will suffice :wall:
     
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    You can believe whatever you wish. Investigations of Russian subversion of the US election are being conducted because US intelligence agencies have developed sufficient evidence to proceed in that endeavour. One hopes the truth will out.
     

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