Bombshell: Nunes Says There Was "Incidental Surveillance" Of Trump During Obama Administration PT.2

Will I hear you denouncing Democrats of actually doing what you on the Left are accusing Trump, his administration and Conservatives in general of doing? Will I hear you denouncing Jimmy Carter, Tip O'Neil and the 800 lb Democratic gorilla himself of conspiring and colluding with the russkies to deny Ronald Reagan his second term?

Will you have the courage?

Yea, right

 

You attempted to deflect with this in another post and btw...if this was truly the case, why didn't the then GOP act upon it? Maybe there is no statute of limitations and let Paul Ryan know how you feel about it.

That being said after twenty three or so BENGHAZI hearings, this Trump/Russian thing is worth at least one.

I read the story at this link..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...onged-for-russian-political-interference.html

I do not see the same motivations, depth of deception, conflicts of interest and financial incentives.

 

We have yet to establish that someone in fact was involved, and Nunes didn't produce this person or persons who Nunes himself wasn't sure actually were guilty of something. It looks like another bait and switch event to take the attention off Trump. As a matter of fact, Nunes himself had mentioned that Trump was having a bad week. He was coming to Trump's rescue with this fake fishing expedition.

 

LOL

 

Yup ole Teddy Kennedy sure did.

 

Yes, it's true that I leave it to those responsible for uncovering the truth to do so, and refrain from wishful thinking, conjecture, and pom pom flailing in the matter. The fact is that a foreign nation meddling with the US elective process is an attack upon the nation, far too substantive a concern to be dismissed by biased speculators, regardless of their ilk.

As I maintain, regardless of whom it upsets, every effort must be made to ascertain the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

 

I maintain that no one can determine whether there was collusion, until they've stated what actually constitutes collusion. If Trump himself contacted Putin to inquire if he had any dirt on Clinton he'd like to share ... is it collusion? Comey offered to pay for Russian intel. Clinton did pay. It was given to MSM to undermine his chances of election. Those are undisputed facts. Is it collusion?

 

Defining collusion is really no problem. Trump himself was caught on tape defining it for us; http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-in...eleted-emails-youll-be-rewarded-by-the-press/

 

No my friend, I'm not gonna let you bash Trump while simulteniously not giving credit to the Democrats who invented treason, collusion and anti-Americanism in the first place.

You do not see the same motivation? Here's the source, an article from Forbes (you do trust Forbes, don't you?)

"Kennedy’s motives? “Like other rational people,” the memorandum explained, “[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations.” But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy’s motives"

Read the rest here:

https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/t...eagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html

 

But he said it was your opinion?

 

This is easy to predict, as to what will happen. No evidence will ever be found of a trump/putin collusion on the Truths revealed about Hillary and the DNC. For it never happened. And once again the democratic mind is showed to be filled, not with gray brain matter, but brown piles of bullshit. So, I am putting this on the record, as I put on record trump would beat Hillary. Against all odds.

So I will be the dems worst nightmare, once again. But really folks, I am not that smart, and this prediction only requires a brain which has the ability to be objective, and the ability to simply pay attention. The absurdity of these claims were there from the get go, and it only increased in absurdity as time went by.

But what is self evident, is a collusion of forces that want to take trump down, willing even to risk their lives in prison in order to do it. Let us just hope that they do get prosecuted.

But we live in a nation where the NSA head, Obama's man, lied to congress, and nothing happened. Then Obama's head of the CIA lied to congress about the CIA spying on congress, breaking all kinds of laws, and its head kept his job, and nothing happened. This does not happen in a rule of law Republic folks. You need to give this serious thought, and drop your tribalism for a moment to do that.

 

Why are we only discussing Republicans and not what Democrats have actually done not that long ago? Is it because to any Democrat, the end justifies the means, so what Democrats did were justified? Is that it?

All I'm trying to do here is to keep things in perspective, but you guys refuse to participate. Why?

 

Not the worst thing he ever did, the Democrat Lion

 

Trump has never dealt a dirty hand to anyone? Trump has never had connections and involvements with nefarious individuals and schemes? Trump has built his world upon honesty and integrity? It is far fetched to believe that a guy like Trump is capable of lying or cheating? Trump's reputation is one that is as clean as a whistle? Is that what you are implying?

Obama did not wiretap Trump so why are you proliferating that piece of bull-****? Because the guy that never lies tells you it's so? LOL

 

Yes. I've gone over this aspect on "Bombshell" V1. Collusion requires foremost, a "secretive" agreement. Not an open declaration. The DNC emails at the center of this are not, never were, classified or even gov't property. According to Hillary, neither were the 30,000 she deleted. Is Rachel Maddow guilty of collusion? She has kept the source of Trumps tax returns secret. What if that source is Russian, Iranian, or N. Korean? The DNC can't even accuse Trump of colluding to commit libel, or slander. Every word was true.

 

You're throwing pasta at the wall and trying to make it stick. The subject is inappropriate surveillance and leaks by the Obama administration. Guilty.

 

Trump's administration leaked it as a diversion. Idiot Nunes openly and publicly refused to deny that they did so in order to cover his own azz down the road apiece.

 

You DO think Trump is smart!!!
This will all come out eventually - maybe in decades. The scandal is obvious, the inappropriate leaks of inappropriate surveillance are obvious, and the invisible hand of your community manipulator is obvious as well.

 

Yeah okay..whatever.

This Nunes is a boot-licking stooge and IMO trump is moron who throughout his life has become involved with folks who are criminals, but still a lot smarter than he is and he will do whatever it takes to line his pockets as they in turn line theirs.

 

That's Mr. President Trump, Sir! to you

 

Trump isn't smart enough to know the difference.

Your proof Maddow kept them secret is what?

 

No! If he was, he would have been smarter about covering his tracks.

How is it obvious?

 

After eight years of right wing bombshells about Obama that turned out to be nothing but wind coming from their backsides, excuse me if I don't take much stock in this until I see something concrete from someone that matters.

 

Psychology tells us, there's only 3 kinds of people - smart, cunning and dumb. No person can have two qualities; in other words, smart cannot be cunning and cunning cannot be dumb.

En masse, people are dumb. Trump is smart. Obama is cunning.

 

You have it backwards. The major difference between Conservatives and Liberals is that Conservatives readily acknowledge their mistakes, force to resign, renounce, disown and throw under the bus their guilty. Liberals do the opposite - they destroy whistleblowers, celebrate their perpetrators, circle wagons around them and refuse to so much as to mention their names in less then honorable context.

A case in point is this very thread where I've challenged half a dozen Liberals to acknowledge Jimmy Carter, Tip O'Neil and 800 lb Democratic gorilla himself colluding with russkies to deny Ronald Reagan re-election. None rose up to the challenge, which fully support my allegations.

I thus claim the moral high ground for Conservatives.