Obama Aide Squeals Live On MSNBC: ‘I Helped Spy On Trump’

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right "lame stream" Nothing like falling back on bumperstickers in the absence of wit or actual argument.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah I know that.

    Why are they investigating? What was the basis for starting the investigation?
     
  3. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    She admitted to the leaks, and did everything she could to get the spy data out of the white house and to congress before Trump took office, because she was afraid Trump would find out.....
     
  4. T_K_Richards

    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    From the WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/comey-confirms-fbi-probe-of-trump-russia-links-1490025014

    "Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey said publicly for the first time Monday that the agency is investigating whether members of Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign collaborated with the Russian government to influence the presidential election."

    I am not a member of the FBI, so I'm not going to speculate why they are investigating beyond that they seem to think this might have taken place.
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    That's not what she said at all. She said she was worried they would destroy or hide the evidence.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LIFE IN FAR AWAY TAHITI; The One Place on Earth Where ...
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    ... then the little island of Tahiti is the golden tassel on the footstool. ... To Obama With Love, and Hate, ... The Cold War Brews Anew in Prime Time.

    There is no extradition treaties between the US and French Polynesia, especially Tahiti.
     
  7. PrincipleInvestment

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    You should perhaps credit Tucker Carlson for that "bumper-sticker" quip that he aired last night ... :wink:
     
  8. vman12

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    LoL.

    Please tell me more about when the investigation started and how it was conducted.

    Oh so Trump WAS placed under surveillance by the WH and unmasked by Intelligence Agencies.

    Please tell us what they've found so far, who authorized the surveillance, and what the basis for suspicion was to initiate the "investigation".
     
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    Oh and please give us a list of what you consider "circumstantial evidence". What facts have been uncovered?
     
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    Ok good we're getting somewhere.

    So let's just assume for a second that the Obama administration (who came out himself and said Russia couldn't interfere with the election) put him under surveillance for "collusion to influence the election".

    How would candidate Trump pulled that off?

    We've already established that the voting system itself has not been tampered with.

    So that leaves the DNC server and Democrat's dirty laundry on that server.

    How did Trump help the Russians gain access to the DNC server again? Perhaps you could explain that.

    Or....is there another possibility here? If so, please explain that for the class.
     
  11. T_K_Richards

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    That would be a silly thing to assume since Comey said it wasn't true.

    I am not going to speculate with regards to your other "questions". That's not something I am interested in. If you have some facts you would like to discuss about this then bring them up.

    The FBI is investigating. Let's see what they find.
     
  12. BestViewedWithCable

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    There is no evidence. Virtually everyone in obamas cabinet said the Russians didn't do anything. Even Julian Assange says the Russian government wasn't the WikiLeaks source....
     
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    Well if there is no evidence I am sure the FBI will let everyone know.

    "Virtually everyone in obamas cabinet said the Russians didn't do anything." Care to back that up with some evidence or are you just lying?

    I don't care what Julian Assange says or thinks.
     
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    It has nothing to do with the topic. Maybe if you knew what was being said you would understand that.
     
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    Now THAT is a desperate message.
     
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    So you think the quote is a fake one, why is that? Where is your proof? Because it seems to me, what the CIA director had said, is actually happening right now. Everybody is arguing over what the truth is, because they don't know what it is.

    "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."? William Casey CIA director.

    So what if neither side is correct on what the truth is? And the "disinformation program" is being completed right before your eyes.

    Maybe a little far-fetched. However according to the quote, not so far-fetched at all.
     
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    Same FBI that investigated Hillary.

    Say, why did the FBI and Intelligence claim the Russians only tried, but got nowhere?

    Never changed voting at all.

    This smoke is still not showing the fire.

    Obama was in charge when this took place.
     
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    Can you be a little more specific. I'm not sure if your being sarcastic or agreeing with me?
     
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    You mean about Evelyn Farkas is all over the news?
     
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    Yea, I am really confused by the reporting on this interview. I did not hear her say anything about spying on Donald Trump.

    The closest that I heard her say was that she, and others, were worried that if Trump found out how they had learned about the communications between Trump and the Russian officials, that Trump would compromise those methods and the intelligence itself.

    There is zero reason to believe that quote is not about the regular monitoring of Russian officials with whom Trump and his associates had direct conversations.
     
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    Don't you like alternative facts?

    I thought they are considered true??
     
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    No. There are 17 intelligence agencies that says Russians did something. Here is the official DNI report on the matter: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...sia-hacking-report-intelligence-agencies.html

    The only question remaining is whether there is any evidence that Trump and his associates colluded with the Russians and to that end, there are some Obama officials who have said they have not seen any evidence of such.

    As to the Wikileaks statement, we learned from James Comey on Monday that the FBI conclusion was that Russia provided some of their hacked information to Wikileaks through an intermediary.
     
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    She got praised on MSNBC. Funny innit?
     
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    The intelligence community did not say that Russians only tried, but got no where. I dare you to find me that quote.

    There are multiple ways of influencing an election. Trump only won by about 70,000 votes across three states. If a very small percentage of Americans were convinced to stay home or change their vote because of the widespread use of fake stories, misinformation, or selective release of private communications from only one party, then Russia absolutely influenced the election even though they did not change a voting machine.

    This reads like a desperate attempt at changing the story.
     
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    That's absolutely accurate.

    She says nothing about surveillance by anyone related to Obama or anything like it.

    Listen to it
     
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