Saint Petersburg explosion: 'At least 10 dead' after shrapnel-filled devices explode in two Metro bl

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  1. TBryant

    TBryant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, its very telling.

    Most people here care less about the content of a posters character than they do about whether that person will back them up or not. Especially when they spew pure BS.
     
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    yes , and USA the emigrate scum according them ... much all anti- Stalinist partizans are Banderovtsy , even if they were officially in war with S. Bandera OUN fraction
     
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    Then it is twice more sad, seeing you taking bible-holding woman's place now, if it is so.

    I presented facts. From Wiki and from ukrainian source, of ultra-right having both armed forces and political weight. These are not accusations - this is a factual knowledge, demonstrating where is concern about neo-nazy in Ukraina comes from. I do not operate with accusations, I present sources. If you can, rationally, present clear evidences of information from these sources not being true - you are welcome. If not - then you have to admit, the issue exists. I do not understand the general reluctance to recognize it, considering it's - hopefully - not your, or anybody's else on that forum, fault, that this issue exists. There is no competition, there is only a need in a rational, sober view of situation - nothing more, nothing less.

    If they would've not existed, we would've had no laws against the nazistic ideology and against demonstration of nazy symbolics, et cetera.

    Pity, but eh. It's his own loss.
     
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    Tell me about it. Even the mildest or purely liberal of my posts labelled a "state propaganda" because I'm russian.
     
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    NO I in no way am hateful towards Refugees! Seriously you read my posts? I am tough on Russia past and present but never against legal immigrants.
     
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    I am not sure what you are saying here? Are you comparing OUN-.M-Melnyk faction to OUN B-Bandera faction ? My dad being OUN B had no love for Melnyk who he considered a phony patriot.
     
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    Muscovite NKVD propaganda calls all anti - Stalinist partisans for "Banderovtsy", even thought 100 organizations in Ukraine fought against Stalinist occupation. and they had different relations to OUN -Bandera fraction
     
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    The UPA being the military arm of the OUN -B fought PARTIZAN battles against thecGermans until it became obvious that the Germaniacs were being pushed out by the advancing Soviet horde. Funny you say that we're 100 organizations who fought against the Stalinist-Soviets and that is the tragedy of the Ukrainian nation that there always have been too many factions. My dad used to say that if you put 3 Ukrainians around a table drinking 'horilka' and talking politics there will emerge 7 political parties when the drinking is done.
     
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    i can like this , OUN/UPA is only one organization which could fight for years and Nazis , and Sralinists. Bandera and OUN/UPA nothong else but the European choice of very similar to Muscovite people . that's why even today Lies, propaganda against him costs to Muscovite state billions US $.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera

    here we reading
    "Unlike competing Polish, Russian, Hungarian or Romanian nationalisms in late imperial Austria, imperial Russia, interwar Poland and Romania, Ukrainian nationalism did not include antisemitism as a core aspect of its program and saw Russians as well as Poles as the chief enemy with Jews playing a secondary role.["

    and then Muscovites and Poles blame Ukrainians ..
     
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    But you adopted the manner of behaviour - hostile, unsimpathetic, and cold.
     
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    That is still a hatred on natonal basis, still a shameful practice, not worthy of modern day humans.
     
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    And instults will not bring you any sympathy from my people. If you wish for a civilized dialogue - be more open, and less antogonizing towards people.
     
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    "That is still a hatred on natonal basis," so you are not an Ilyinist? so you are against your czar Putin , RPC, etc.?
     
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    My political views are my personal business, that I do not feel comfortable discussing, considering the tone with which I am asked about them.

    Never the less, I repeat - I highly in insist on inappropriacy of expressions of hatred on national basis in age we live in.
     
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    Nothing comes close to Asiatic NKVD!
     
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    "My political views are my personal business," why do you post something here? you said Medvedev is a thug, right? i asked you whats new (what happens usually with the criminals ?) ? and who is Putin if his PM Medvedev is a thug? where are the logical answers ?
     
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    totally agree with you , you know no other organization in the world did what NKVD did to own people. and mongols juchi still love them

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    You need to explain that , examples? When or where was I cold against legal immigrants. Illegals yes they are criminals. Legal s go through proper channels.
     
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    Not immigrants, other group of people. I criticized not your attitude to immigrants, but you posessing the harsh, cold attitude to other group of people, namely - my nation.
     
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    You are probably correct that the NKVD even killed and terrorized some Russians not just Ukrainians or Belarusses. I think that the NKVD did commit many murders in the Don Cossack region, am I correct ?
     
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    Darwin did not even know Ukrainians existed! Lol
     
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    That is not based on you "nation" but based upon the behavior of your "nation". Your nation not mine murdered 7 or 8 million of my parents nation in the man made or Stalin made famine my "nation" did not murder in a contrived famine 7 or 8 million Russians. Your nation sent my grandfather's to die in Siberia, my nation did not send your grandfather to Siberia. Your nation invaded my ancestral home Ukraine, Ukraine has not invaded Russia.

    If your nation stayed on the Eastern side of the Don as a good neighbor should we could be trading partners and friends.
     
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    If you are interested, according to research made in 1991 by Zemskov, the majority of prisoners in forced labour camps have been of russian nationality.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ГУЛАГ....BB.D1.8E.D1.87.D1.91.D0.BD.D0.BD.D1.8B.D1.85
    http://scepsis.net/library/id_937.html#table4
     
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    Russians are not only nation that been part of Soviet Union, RSFSR was not the only part of Soviet Union.
     
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    What's the point of politicizing this attack?
     

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