U.S. says Syrians built crematorium at prison to dispose of bodiesThe US

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  1. Mandelus

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    What I mean is this ...

    On July 5, 2007, Ja'far Kiani was stoned in Aghche-kand, a village outside Takestan in Iran due to Sharia law (to make it short).
    Reaction USA: barbaric Mullah Regime and whatever else accuse from right these persons of political right in the USA!

    On January 10, 2015, Lalia Bint Abdul Muttablib from Burma was beheaded in public because she allegedly killed her 7-year-old daughter-in-law. Legal basis: Sharia, Hadad and Koran!
    Reaction USA: Silence ... not a single word about from the same persons who shout "evil Mullahs" in case of Iran!
     
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    Many were killed, it's for sure
     
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    I agree with the different treatment of such cases, but I like to make this clear:
    Stoning is banned in Iran and has been for a long time. But there have been a few cases when the ban has been reportedly ignored in some remote village or somewhere. These instances, akin to vigilante justice, simply help a narrative from those (and I am not referring to you) who want to create a false overall picture of things in Iran.
     
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    Who cares what lying bastards say in Washington?
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    And who cares of what he lying bastards in Moscow say?
     
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    Why are we even care about lying bastards at all? We're discussing news there, not politicians' opinion on them.

    So, one person there bringed in a valid point - crematoriums usually have a tall exhaust, to prevent people from breathing in the smoke. And the presumed building of the crematorim in Syria does not have it... Think they just using vents, or something..?
     
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    Lies, lies and more lies. Anyone who believes anything coming out of our government and the CIA controlled press has to be an total idiot.

    Now they're using the same excuse of genocide that Clinton used against Miloshevik and harped on the public for days on end so Nato could intervene illegally in their civil war.

    When Seymour Hersh the Pulitzer Prize winning investigator checked into it, and found there was no genocide, not one American publication would publish his findings, he had to go to Britain.

    Miloshevik in the meantime languished in jail waiting for his trial, and when the time approached and he was able to reveal the truth to the world, they poisoned him.

    Now after enough years have passed and its been planted in people's minds that the Serbs were committing genocide when according to Carla Del Ponte of the UN, the Serbs were the ones being murdered for their body parts ... the Hague said that Miloshevik was innocent of all crimes. He was martyred for the animals who run our state department.


    Here is the martyred Pres. Miloshevik of Yugoslavia who was found innocent of all crimes by the Hague after Nato bombed Belgrade for 78 days and killed thousands, and after they poisoned him so he wouldn't be able to testify.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I used to dismiss most conspiracy theories off hand, but unfortunately, I have learned that many of them contain at least grains of truth. Even when the story they present isn't accurate, or even when their theory as to what happened and why is itself wrong, they are often right that much of what is presented as news and facts are an elaborate lie. Of course, unlike some here who have found in refuge for the truth in organs that slam the MSM in the right wing press in the US, the fact is that if the lies in the MSM are elaborate and rather sophisticated, the lies in the right wing media aren't either elaborate or sophisticated. They just work due to their repetition and because of the ignorance, gullibility (or willing prejudices) of those exposed to such lies.

    Thus, at the end of the day, the one lesson that I am learning at a not very young age, is to be skeptical of politics, politicians, and all those who speak to and about politics in various media around the world. Relying on competition and self-interest of political opponents of those who peddle these lies often doesn't address the lies so much as expose you to a different set of lies.
     
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    Is your post now just a joke or do you actually really play the mentally labile "anti-West" propaganda clown?

    That you, like others still are rumbling, that NATO was so oh so evil in ex-Yugoslavien is, is clear.

    Let's start with fact 1:
    Who finally ended the conflict with military means? Only NATO via IFOR? Bullshit! Who was there with bold letters "IFOR" on the tanks? Russia!
    So: Everything that took place since Dayton has also happened in the name of Russia, because Russia was also part of the groups and set IFOR troops!

    Fact 2:
    There is, of course, no formal acquittal. The International Criminal Court noted on his website: "Proceedings against Slobodan Milošević ended, the defendant died in custody on 11 March 2006." Nevertheless, the Criminal Court has once again expressed its opinion on the Milošević case, namely in the judgment against Radovan Karadžić, the former leader of the Bosnian Serbs. He condemned the court on 24 March 2016 to 40 years of imprisonment, guilty, among other things, because of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide in Srebrenica!

    Do you defend Karadžić (and Mladić) and tell that they are innocent too?
    If yes, sorry, then I become very angry with you, because anyone who denies this FACT has lost any credit and reliance ... I was part of UNPROFOR and I know what happened and who it was!

    Fact 3
    Milošević was relieved only with regard to the war crimes in Bosnia, so the guilt is so strong with Karadžić for Srebrenica, that Milošević was relieved!
    Only, without Milošević, the Bosnian Serbs would have ended quickly, so why did not he use pressure to stop this bastard Karadžić?

    But what about the war in Croatia? What about Kosovo? What about Slovenia? There he is responsible as the head of the state as far as the outbreak of the fighting is concerned .... together with the separatists!
    And on the crimes of the Serrben there, he had direct responsibility!

    Fact Conclusion:
    Milošević was subsequently released and relieved in Bosnia because of the prosecution for war crimes, etc., because the Bosnian Serb leader was the really responsible bastard here!
    But this acquittal does not concern the remaining crimes of Milošević!

    And your reaction shows how many are hated in their hate to the West when they turn facts as they do now. What is left of your post now? Nothing but hot air and the usual anti-West propaganda BS, what no one takes for serious!
     
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    Warmongers always make sure that 'truth the first casualty of war.' Most of these atrocities stories about Assad are suspicious - they look like typical war propaganda. Could they be true? I suppose so, but experience says they are probably BS.
     
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    In truth it's likely some of them are true, some are made up, some are twisted and some are sincerely misinterprited. Modern press just usually does not puts effort in dividing these kinds of stories from each other to give a clean picture and instead adjust them further to fit views of their sponsors. =~=
     
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    I did. Try again.
     
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    Under the boot of the assad state security apparatus. Do you have any understanding of what life in syria was like BEFORE 2010? Clearly not.

    isis did not even get involved in the civil war FOR YEARS after it started. The 85% of the country that is sunni and a large portion of the christians rose up against a 50-year family dynasty that had ZERO legitimacy.

    Are for for real? Had obama the awful acted and helped arm the SAA defectors numbered 200,000 to help them when they formed the FSA, assad would be long gone, and the islamists would have been destroyed early on. Instead, that f--king POS turd of a president sat on his hands - as he did with iran in 2009 while their democracy protestors were crushed and murdered by that fake regime - and the FSA was slaughtered by isis.

    He has slaughtered more people than anyone since the hutus and tutsis, or the sudanese muslims. He is a monstrous bastard war criminal who will be either be hanged one day by the syrians or at the hague, or blown up in an attack by islamists - all of which I'd applaud.
     
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    "Stable"? Nazi germany was "stable." Syria was a slaughter machine under assad BEFORE the civil war.

    I find it hilarious that the far left was railing for YEARS against syria because it was a big rendition destination for the US to send people to be tortured in its vast gulag system - but but but now they defend pre-war syria as if it were f-cking paris. Hilarious.
     
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    Dude, go away, just go away. Your knowledge on syria and the mideast is practically non-existent.

    Hama, 1982.
     
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    You think all those Syrian Christians are lying about Assad?
     
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    Ugh, the paid posters are so, so boring....

    https://www.theguardian.com/theguar.../2011/aug/01/hama-syria-massacre-1982-archive

    The Syrian city of Hama was the scene of a massacre in 1982 when President Hafez al-Assad, father of the current president Bashar al-Assad, razed the city to crush a Sunni rebellion, slaughtering an estimated 20,000 of his own people.

    Assad's troops pounded Hama with artillery fire for several days and, with the city in ruins, his bulldozers moved in and flattened neighbourhoods.

    The 1982 massacre is regarded as the single bloodiest assault by an Arab ruler against his own people in modern times and remains a pivotal event in Syrian history.
     
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    The modern press loves official BS.
     
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    And many terrorists are still being killed by the Syrian Army as they retake their country. It's retribution for the genocide they committed against the Christians and other minorities. Just because they changed their name to get US support, doesn't mean they aren't the same animals that beheaded a 12 year old sick boy.

    Bravo Assad, and I say that for all the innocents that have been killed and suffered because of our policies.

    As for the Israeli minister that said Assad should be assassinated and a Sunni should be put in as president, I say I have a better idea. Why not assassinate Netanyahu and put in a moderate Sunni instead... like the ones we support in the video for instance. That would also calm things down.:roll:



     
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    Is this supposed to be "News"?
     
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    For most people, life in iran was FAR better under the shah.

    Just look up women's dress and the number of women in universities before and after the islamist filth took over.

    KSA is problematic, but has not conducted A FRACTION of the number of terrorist attacks as iran, nor is KSA running four other capitals in countries across the mideast, nor running wars across the mideast like iran.

    iran has also injured or killed thousands of american troops, and has conducted multiple terrorist attacks against the US.

    iran's regime should have been, and still should be, utterly destroyed. Best part? It will be.
     
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    And many terrorists are still being killed by the Syrian Army as they retake their country. It's retribution for the genocide they committed against the Christians and other minorities. Just because they changed their name to get US support, doesn't mean they aren't the same animals that beheaded a 12 year old sick boy.

    Bravo Assad, and I say that for all the innocents that have been killed and suffered because of our policies... not to mention our air strikes.

    As for the Israeli minister that said Assad should be assassinated and a Sunni should be put in as president, I say I have a better idea. Why not assassinate Netanyahu and put in a moderate Sunni instead... like the ones we support in the video for instance. That would also calm things down.:roll:

     
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    LOL! IOW, you want the US to nuke Iran for you? ;-)
     
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    Stop BS'ing already, stoning is nothing - THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF POLITICAL PRISONERS including women like Atena in the iranian gulag system.

    The scumbag regime attacks 14 year old years for wearing ripped jeans.

    You attack others for defend KSA while you continue to spout utter garbage and nonsense about iran. Zero credibility.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...a-guidance-patrols-womens-right-a7582206.html

    "A 14-year-old girl has been beaten and detained for wearing ripped jeans in Iran in the latest incident of police brutality against women and girls. Zahra*, who The Independent is not identifying for fear she may suffer reprisals, was celebrating her birthday with friends last week when a patrol of “morality police” pulled up. The teenager said officers tried to force her and her friends into their car in the city of Shiraz, beating them when they resisted."
     
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    An even better idea would be for the US not to assassinate either Netanyahu or Assad.
    The ME powers have proved they can do their own blood work
     
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    All I have to say to individuals like this is that I very much look forward to the bombings and attacks in russia coming as retribution for what putie boy did in syria.

    Couldn't happen to a more deserving audience.
     

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